Range Report - CZ-75B SA

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GeneS

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I recently bought a new CZ-75B SA. It is in 9mm caliber. A local dealer ordered it for me. A nice surprise came when I picked it up. I was expecting 2- 10 rd. magazines, and it came with 1- 10 rd. and 1- 15 rd. mag. The 75B SA is the single action only version of the Czech Republic made CZ-75B. Other differences to the standard 75B include: slide width remains the same all the way to the muzzle, fairly wide ambidextrous safety levers, mildly extended mag release, and a longer, slightly upswept grip tang. I have had a Browning Hi-Power MkII for many years and this pistol has a similar feel. The grip of the CZ is a little longer and the longer grip tang should avoid the famous Hi-Power hammer bite. The CZ does not have a magazine disconnect safety. These features got me to thinking about the 75B SA for IDPA competition.

General impressions: The pistol is well made, slide to frame fit is tight. There is no play in the barrel lock-up. The trigger reach is a little longer than a Hi-Power. Like the Hi-Power, it has a long trigger reset. This is something of a disadvantage when firing close-up and fast compared to the very short trigger reset of a 1911. The trigger pull is fairly light, I'm guessing slightly under 4 lbs. It feels just a little gritty before it breaks. I'm hoping this smoothes out with use. Conversely, my Hi-Power has a heavier pull but it is somewhat crisper. The sights are easy to pick up and are the 3 dot type. I prefer plain black and may change them later on. Both the recoil and hammer spring feel on the light side. Hammer spring is much lighter than the Hi-Power, similar to the 18 lb. Spring of a Colt Gold Cup.

I fired this pistol for the first time today. I fired about 75 rounds. Tested were some of the South African PMP brand in 115 gr. FMJ. I also tried some handloads in 115 gr. FMJ. I fired 1 magazine of factory Speer 124 gr. Gold Dot HP. There was 1 Failure to feed and 1 light primer strike with the GDHP. There were no other hiccups. Ejection was positive with all empty cases landing around 4:00 o'clock. The lightest loads were 115gr. handloads over 4.7 gr. of Hodgen Universal. These empties landed at least 3 ft. away. The GDHP cases landed a good 5-6 ft. away. The sights seemed to be well regulated. I mainly fired at old cans and did not shoot for groups. Accuracy testing will probably come at the next range trip.

This pistol is my first CZ. Having heard much praise about the CZ-75 for as long as I can remember, I had wanted to try shooting one. Never had a good opportunity until recently. A fellow let me try his CZ-75BD (decocker) model at the range. I was impressed with the feel and general shootability of it. Ergonomics were good for me and recoil was pretty light in a 9mm of this size and weight. After some thinking, a good pistol for the Enhanced Service Pistol division of IDPA became my justification for buying the CZ-75B SA. This pistol should work well there. It will be interesting to see how it stacks up against the 9mm and 38 Super 1911's.
 
Thanks for the report, I always wanted to try the SA 75. I'm sure it will serev you well, I have one from the 80's and it's been perfect. Bren
 
Great read on a great gun. My SA is favorite fullsize CZ. Mine has a little work done to it :rolleyes: but it really didnt need any of it...just tinkering.

The guns are great and it and the 97B typically group around 1" from a fixed rest at 25 yds...very few guns under 1000$ can say that. Plus its a CZ........................Enjoy it.

Shoot well.
 
Dangit, you guys just HAVE to go praising those CZ pistols, and I can't afford one right now! I've got the itch bad! Hopefully I'll have the funds here in a few weeks... then that 75B will be mine!!

Gene,

I'm getting one with full intention to use it in IDPA. I have a 1911 in .45 that I use right now. It's great, but hits low left (mostly because of me, but partly because of the gun) and I hate chasing brass. So a good 9mm with lighter recoil, and not having to chase brass (I won't reload 9mm) will be good advantages.

Any word on accuracy? Those pistols are supposed to be hella accurate!
 
Any word on accuracy? Those pistols are supposed to be hella accurate!

Mine is very accurate. Using ball ammo, it will keep up with my Kimbers. If I switch ammo on both, the Kimber walks away with the prize. The CZ 75 B SA is a nice 9mm. I enjoy shooting mine. I use it only as a range gun, but its a lot of fun, especially when you can buy 9mm ammo for 1/2 the price of .45 ACP.
 
In regards to accuracy...my SA had the barrel Cryo Accurized and in all fairness, my ability will not show an improvement. The better shooters who have shot the gun before havent said anything either....oh well.

I shot mine against my Kimber and it was pretty much a dead heat. Both will group around 1" for me from a rest at 15-20 yds. Ammo does play alot with the guns specific accuracy...some guns like certain ammo.

I will compare the SA with my STI Trojan I just got....in terms of accuracy Ill be surprised if I can shoot well enough to tell a difference. However, Ill force myself to do the comparison for the sake of it....:D :rolleyes:

Shoot well
 
Thanks for all the replies. I hope to see what kind of accuracy I can get this coming weekend. I've always heard CZ's rate highly in that department.

A couple of questions. I've read reports of the plastic trigger breaking. Has anyone heard of this and would you swap it out or wait and see? Also Cheaper than Dirt has aftermarket 15rd. magazines for, IIRC, $17. Does anyone have experience with them? Factory CZ mags seem to be going for $70-$80, and $25-$30 for 10 rounders.
 
OK...the plastic triggers are a problem for the guys that put on the safety and PPPUUUULLLL on it. You know its plastic..so DONT. CZUSA has been known to replace a few....like mine. The plastic in mine was getting loose but had many rounds through it prior to any trouble with it. The plastic also takes away the "feel" of the trigger/parts workings...makes for a vague pull.
If you get a metal trigger, they have 2, yes not 1 but 2 :D adjustments on them for takeup and overtravel...and must be installed and shaped by a CZ guru/smith.

I would only run CZ hi caps for a CCW weapon...if its a target/games/competition gun...get what mags you want. But real CZ mags go for 40-50$ each....HI CAPS.....
Promags are good...most have good luck with them and I would shoot comp. with them...but still not carry.
CDNN has good stuff...but be wary of cheap hi caps...you get what you pay for.....CZ's are a big exception to that rule.......ok, huge :D

Shoot well
 
Gene, I'd try looking on Gunbroker. Search under CZ and find magazines that a guy named Reddogxx is selling. They're like $26, but have a great reputation from what I read on the CZ Forum website.
 
PCRCCW & Matthew_Q,

Thanks for the info. I'd like to get a couple more mags as range mags. In addition to the one's that came with it, I have 2 factory ten rounders from Cheaper than Dirt. They were out of the 15 rounders when I ordered these or I would have gotten one just to try. I haven't seen any factory standard capacity mags for $50 yet, but I'll keep an eye open for them.

I'm planning to leave the plastic trigger alone, at least for the time being. PCRCCW, is your replacement trigger steel or alloy? Is it the same shape as the stock plastic one?

Gene
 
UPDATE

I really wanted to try to try the new CZ out at a match this weekend. The only thing I knew of in the area was an IPSC match. I've only shot a couple of IPSC matches in the last several years, but they are fun, and I thought it would be a good test. I've had a kydex holster ordered for several weeks but it did not make it in time. Not to be delayed, I dug out an old Uncle Mike's nylon pancake holster and it fit really well. I suppose I didn't look very tactical or gamey, but it served the purpose, and actually it was a pretty fast holster.

First off, I tried some 115 gr. handloads that I wanted to use at 15 yds. to see where they grouped. They shot dead on to point of aim and grouped into one ragged hole. Good enough! Maybe in cooler weather I'll do some real accuracy testing with various loads at longer distance.

The match went great. I fired about a hundred rounds. Zero malfunctions. Biggest problem was not getting a proper grip on the draw. I think not being used to this pistol was the biggest reason, and the holster was probably a contributor. I finished 9th out of 16 in Limited 10 at 55.186%. Not too bad for me, especially considering shooting minor caliber, and the top 2 finishers were Grand Masters. The CZ-75B SA looks like a keeper.
 
Very very cool.

The alloy trigger is the one I got and the general outline is similar to the OEM plastic's shape. Not the straight one on the IPSC.
I literally had to shape the trigger....the "in the trigger guard part"..the rest was shaped/fitted by my smith. It came as a billet...dremel, files and scotch brite to the rescue.

You did killer at your match....just think how youll do when you get used to it.......:D :D :D

Shoot well
 
PCRCCW,

Thanks, and I apprieciate the lowdown on the alloy trigger.

The match was a lot of fun and I was pleased how it went. The CZ worked great. One stage had head box shots at about 7, 8, and 9 yards. I went 6 for 6. I was in the squad with the match winner though. It did not feel like I was doing killer. WOW!

Gene
 
You can pay more for a pistol than a CZ costs, but you won't get more gun.
 
GeneS,

Excellent to hear your new CZ is performing well! You're making my itch for one WORSE!!

I know I'll be more than happy when I finally have the loot to get my CZ. I plan on using it for IDPA and backup for Carbine matches. I think the 9 will be more pleasant to shoot for me. Right now I have a 1911, but it's just not very accurate for me. Even if I concentrate, it still hits low and a little left, and isn't very consistant. I know I can do better. When I had my 92FS, I could get 1-1.5" groups out to 15 yards easily.

Plus, I won't chase 9mm brass!

I have a bonus coming up in a couple weeks, so I'll be getting mine soon! I'm sure soon after, I'll post a glowing range report!
 
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