Real, flesh and blood, JBT

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Just met a real, flesh-and-blood, JBT. He's at the gamer place were I go, and he basically claims to be ex-specops, current .gov security job, carries a service pistol, carries lots of badges, and everybody I know believes him on these claims.
He preaches this insane statist garbage, and everybody listens, because he won't let me argue by saying: "You're younger, I'm ex-specops, I've seen hell, and I know better.".
He also said "humans are beasts, they need strong government control".
Did I mention he's driving me nuts.?
 
Does he need some friends? There are thousands I would like to send on permanent overseas assignment :evil:
 
Uh, how about an underseas assignment, instead?

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Balrog, what do you mean, he won't LET you argue? Has he got some kind of authority that you must obey him? Or do you mean he just basically shouts you down? If so, he's easy meat - just point that out. Point out that he can't argue his position intelligently. Some will start to see it if you point it out. The tide will turn.


Either that, or you're hanging with a complete bunch of morons.
 
Find a way to shut this poser up and embarrass him infront of many of his friends.
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Seemed to be a poser at first, now I'm not so sure, especially as so many of my friends believe him.

He used to be SpecOps, that's for sure, but I'm not sure how much gov.il he's right now, seems to me his claims are true on this too, can't really check.
 
i don't care what he is with that attitude he needs to wake up naked handcuffed around a cactus.
 
He also said "humans are beasts, they need strong government control".
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Wow! You have heard from a guy quoting from the American liberal playbook, and you don't like what you hear? Interesting...
"If one is not a liberal at 20, one has no heart. If one is not a conservative at 40, one has no brain." former British Prime Minister Winston Churchill
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We shall always reserve the right to bomb the *******
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Also Winston Churchill. No-one can be infallible. Were you a liberal when you were 20 Duncan ;) ? To me all that quote of yours represents (English politics being slightly different) is the slide to acceptance of the status quo with advancing years.

You may regard me as a liberal but I certainly do not agree with the views of this JBT when it comes to government and the people as ''beasts''.
 
It strikes me that the 'humans are beasts; they require strong government control' comment sounds vaguely NAZI,
say from sometime in the mid 1930's,
perhaps uttered by Adolf Hitler.

This wanna be JBT is a Jew???? You need to get some like minded folks together and do the group happy dance on his scrotum. Better yet, ignore him completely and actively encourage others to do the same. He'll find what he's looking for and it won't be pleasant.:fire:
 
Were you a liberal when you were 20 Duncan
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No.
To me all that quote of yours represents (English politics being slightly different) is the slide to acceptance of the status quo with advancing years.
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Having had the benefit of approximately twice as many years on Earth as you, what the quote represents to me is the wisdom that all of life takes effort. And that which serves justice most, is a system that doesn't use the rationalization of mob-rule to justify theft in the name of the greater good.

I grew up as an Agro-American. I saw first hand that a potato never reached our cooking pot that we didn't work to put it in there. Never did a bird/deer/rabbit/squirrel come to hand that we didn't hunt it. Never did a helping hand come, in time of trouble, that didn't have the face of a friend behind it. The face of a friend that shown with the knowledge of times past when perhaps we had come to that friend's aid, or that at the very least we understood the personal honor that comes from a sense of obligation to help one's fellow man.

By 20, I had already been in the Navy for three years. Because I had learned at the knees of my scarred family members that ours, the greatest nation that the world has ever known, came with a dear price attached, and that it would be unwise to think that "others will pay".
You may regard me as a liberal but I certainly do not agree with the views of this JBT when it comes to government and the people as ''beasts''.
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Of that I have little doubt. But be sure to pray each and every day that the liberalism that you admire never comes to pass. Because in the end-game of liberalism; after all personal responsibility has been hijacked by the collective, after all weapons that would actually be effective in self-defense have been removed, and when all the subject/slave has left to defend him/herself is their "opinion/vote/right to expression", that it is then that your disagreement will matter least.
 
It's the return of PrettyBoy!

He's a SEEL. If he was an elite soldier and now he spends all his time yelling at a bunch of teenagers playing Rainbow Six in a chat room, well, that's sad.
 
St Johns, with your Churchill quote, it seems you equate it to today's usage. In Churchill's learning-years, the word was far less pejorative than it ever was in the US southern states or in modern times. I'm not at all saying it wasn't racist--but it didn't have the (what?) "viciousness"?

Words gotta be looked at in the context of their times, as well as in an entire paragraph...As example, "well regulated"...

:), Art
 
Getting back to our faux,(yes it is a french word),JBT spec-op guy.
Sounds like a candidate for the mall ninja academy! I hear this crap from escapees from the home for the perpetually bewildered as well as wannabees!

You can usually pick up in two minutes or less that they are so full of.......
that their shoes squish when they walk. I avoid them religiously!
 
Ummmm, ahem.... It's been my experience that the men that have really
"been there, done that", generally are the least likely to talk about it.
Example, my dad, was a U.S. Army Captain, Medical Corps, from Normandy to Berlin, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Russian Red Star, Purple Heart, etc, etc, never had a lot to say about the whole thing.

Brother in law was a U.S. Army Ranger, Viet Nam, 1966-67. Never talks about it.

Your hotshot specops spook dude, doubt it.:rolleyes:
 
If he was an elite soldier and now he spends all his time yelling at a bunch of teenagers playing Rainbow Six in a chat room, well, that's sad.
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What?:what:

I'd don't play Rainbow Six. Once a week, you see, all the gamers/role-players/sci-fi addicts in the 50-mile radius converge upon a single park in Tel-Aviv. Many of them (as this is Israel) are ex-military, and at least a few are/were in Golani, Givati, a few where in Defensive Wall or similar events.

The guy rarely ever tells stories of his "military life", except one story I rembember (in which nobody was shot). What strikes me is that everybody believes him.:what:
 
Hang on Art, criticising my quote for context and not any other quote for context is a bit much. That quote was made in reference to the Middle East situation which Britain was responsible for at the time. Makes the quote worse. To criticise Duncan's quote for context, Churchill was likely talking about different ''liberalism'' and ''conservatism'' than we understand by those terms today.

Back to Duncan, understand what you are saying Duncan. Some of my experiences are not dissimilar, some are so dissimilar as to make us inhabitants of a separate planet. Be nice to understand each other - or not? My brand of ''liberalism'' (if we must call it that) does not involve removal of all personal responsibility and the people as ''slaves''. That ''political map'' test that was posted on here put me as a ''centrist'', vertically on dead centre, horizontally nearly into the West. The divide of lib/con isn't simple, or even in existance.

MB - this guy is just a poser, remind him - at the potential risk of embarrassment to yourself - that he is a ''gamer/rp'er/sci fi addict.'' ;)
 
Control freaks are welcome to tell me what to do 'til they're blue in the face.

Good luck getting me to comply, though... ;)
 
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