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Reloading question

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by pohill, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. pohill

    pohill Well-Known Member

    Rookie mistake - I loaded up some rounds for the 50-70, but ran out of bullet lube. Will Bore Butter work until I get some more SPG? (5 rounds)
  2. Prairie Dawg

    Prairie Dawg Well-Known Member

    What do you mean by "work"?
  3. Patocazador

    Patocazador Well-Known Member

    I don't know if it will work in a cartridge or not but I'd guess that it won't be ideal due to Bore Butter's low melting point. I don't even like it on maxi-balls due to its tendency to turn liquid so easily.

    You could make up a concoction of something like 'rooster jack' by mixing about 5-7 parts of crisco with one part beeswax .. melt them together and mix. If you want it thicker (harder), add more beeswax. If you want it more pliable, add more crisco. Don't get it too hot or it will burn.
  4. Acorn Mush

    Acorn Mush Well-Known Member

    Pohill, did you mean you loaded unlubed bullets into charged cases? If so, I don't think simply applying some Bore Butter to the exposed surface of the bullet will be enough. If you intend to pull any unlubed bullets and then apply Bore Butter prior to reinserting into the cases, I don't believe you will be happy with the results. Bore Butter becomes soft at room temperature. However, you might get acceptable results by thickening it up with the addition of either some bees wax or paraffin wax.

    Good luck, and let us know how it worked out for you.
  5. pohill

    pohill Well-Known Member

    I loaded the powder, reached for the SPG to lube the bullets but there's not enough left. So, I have loaded cartridges waiting for the bullets to be seated.
    Yeah, now that I think of it, Bore Butter doesn't stand up to heat at all. I'll get some more SPG or try the beeswax/Crisco formula.
  6. Lunie

    Lunie Well-Known Member

    If'n I were you, I think I'd either:

    a) Whip up some homemade lube
    b) Leave them unlubed
    c) Go get some more SPG

    Which you choose depends on how much time you have, and how much you are worried about it.
  7. pohill

    pohill Well-Known Member

    Any suggestions on a beeswax source?
  8. zxcvbob

    zxcvbob Well-Known Member

    Did you already load the cartridges without lube? It's not clear from your first post.

    Anyway, some folks at the cast boolits forum say peanut butter makes a good cast rifle bullet lube. I *think* they are serious...
  9. pohill

    pohill Well-Known Member

    No, I haven't seated the bullets yet.
    Peanut butter? Mixed with what?
    When I said "rookie mistake" I meant that I didn't plan it out enough.
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2012
  10. zxcvbob

    zxcvbob Well-Known Member

    Just peanut butter. I haven't tried it yet, but it actually makes sense -- unless it's just a joke and I fell for it. :D
  11. FreddyKruger

    FreddyKruger Well-Known Member

    i got a nice amount of beeswax off ebay. i gave up looking local and this stuff was already filtered ready to go. the price was acceptable.

    Have you had a look in the fridge for some crisco/veg fat etc?
  12. pohill

    pohill Well-Known Member

    I just ordered some beeswax online. I used to make lube pills for my BP revolvers - beeswax, Crisco, and paraffin. I'll probably leave the paraffin out.
    There's alot of recipes for BP lubes online. Beeswax and Crisco looks like the easiest.
  13. Hellgate

    Hellgate Well-Known Member

    I've used beeswax 50/50 with olive oil or lard or deer tallow. The BW/olive oil was a little tacky or soft. The BW/lard was pretty good (and cheap too). The BW/deer tallow is best: firmer but a good lube for my Lyman sizer. You don't want to know how much that deer tallow probably REALLY cost me to get but I just couldn't let 2" of back fat go to waste so I rendered about 5 lbs of it. Supposedly mutton tallow is even better but the deer was "in hand". A 50/50 BW and peanut oil is also supposed to be good. Arguably, SPG tops them all and you ought to stick to one lube while working up a load.
  14. Driftwood Johnson

    Driftwood Johnson Well-Known Member


    I used to make up my own BP bullet lube from a 50/50 mixture of Beeswax and Crisco. Did it for years before I bought my Starr lubrisizer, pan lubed the bullets in the oven. Melted a chunk of beeswax in a double boiler on the stove top, then added in a similar sized glob of Crisco. Actual proportions were not too critical, just tried to eyeball it at 50/50.
  15. zimmerstutzen

    zimmerstutzen Well-Known Member

    Vaseline, and the red wax from gouda o. r edam cheese
    Used it for decades now
  16. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    Gouda cheese red wax and vaseline? What ratio?

    I generally throw the red wax into the fireplace.
  17. zimmerstutzen

    zimmerstutzen Well-Known Member

    About equal.
    Depends on the viscosity of the petroleum jelly
    Most of the cheese wax used today is a special food grade microcryllaline synthetic wax.
  18. dagger dog

    dagger dog Well-Known Member

    Buck Emmert's lube;

    1750 grains Beeswax
    1368 grains Crisco Shortening
    328 grains Wesson Oil-Vegatable oil

    melt in double boiler, pan lube.
  19. pohill

    pohill Well-Known Member

  20. StrawHat

    StrawHat Well-Known Member

    I combine beeswax and olive oil for a reasonable lube in my 50-70. Start at 50/50 and increase one of the other until you get the consistency you want. I go for a little stiffer than lip balm.

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