Replacement Sights for Yugo M57

[meanmrmustard]

Was shooting my 7.62 Tok this afternoon, and the front sight went bye bye, never to be seen again.

The rear is too easily drifted for my liking, but red Loctite cures that. However, I'm still sans front sight.

BuyMilsurp.com is sold out of front sights. So my question is: Has anyone modified a more modern sight set to fit the Tokarevs? I've got the ways and means to file and fit, but what dovetailed sight is closest to the M57?

 

[meanmrmustard]

No takers?

No matter: its warrantied, so CAI is shipping whole new gun.

 

[palmetto99]

I was looking at one of these in 9mm. Liked it alot, but the factory sights were hard for me to pick up. I'm sure a "good" gunsmith coult put something better on, but I put my $$ in another used gun.

 

[meanmrmustard]

Not bad sights, just not properly installed at Zastava.

Gun goes back today, and they're sending me a whole new gun.

Turnaround: 3 weeks!!!

 

[jhb]

Yep, some parts are about or are impossible to find. Just like non-chinese barrels..... The sights are one of them. Good call sending it back.

Yep on zastava not being finished well. My new production m57 leaves a lot to be desired. Machine marks that could be described as deep nasty gouges rather than machine marks. A chunk missing from the crown and burrs galore. Looks like a new employee did mine on their first day after a half hour training session. Sharp edges everywhere, and not a smooth or proper finish to be found on the entire pistol. These are not for those who like finely finished pistols. Ironicaly my c&r m57 is beautiful compared to this one. Still great guns for the money as it shoots....and it shoots a caliber I really like, and it was cheap.

 

[meanmrmustard]

Yep, some parts are about or are impossible to find. Just like non-chinese barrels..... The sights are one of them. Good call sending it back.

Yep on zastava not being finished well. My new production m57 leaves a lot to be desired. Machine marks that could be described as deep nasty gouges rather than machine marks. A chunk missing from the crown and burrs galore. Looks like a new employee did mine on their first day after a half hour training session. Sharp edges everywhere, and not a smooth or proper finish to be found on the entire pistol. These are not for those who like finely finished pistols. Ironicaly my c&r m57 is beautiful compared to this one. Still great guns for the money as it shoots....and it shoots a caliber I really like, and it was cheap.

Agree on all points.

However, it was a tight gun, and rather smooth. Oddly, even while a bit rough, the gun had a rather rustic look. It had a surface ground look about it.

When the new one arrives, dovetail is getting red loctite and 24 hours of dry time.

The 7.62x25 is probably now my favorite handgun cartridge of all time. Fast, hits hard, cheap (when in stock), and a brilliant muzzle flash to boot.

 

[Dentite]

The M57 would be sweet with some modern sights but the grip angle is still too vertical for my tastes and the trigger pull to hard.

A 1911 in 7.62x25 would correct those and be a lot of fun to shoot but only with piles of good cheap surplus ammo to run through it. Reloading it is a biggger pain than 9mm, etc.

I still don't plan on getting rid of my two m57s anytime soon.

 

[meanmrmustard]

The M57 would be sweet with some modern sights but the grip angle is still too vertical for my tastes and the trigger pull to hard.

A 1911 in 7.62x25 would correct those and be a lot of fun to shoot but only with piles of good cheap surplus ammo to run through it. Reloading it is a biggger pain than 9mm, etc.

I still don't plan on getting rid of my two m57s anytime soon.

Agreed.

Problem with the 1911 and the 762x25 is the surplus often has hard primers. The mainspring would need to be changed in order to pop them reliably. Even still, I'd have to hit some of my surplus 2-3 times with the M57.

The new M57s out of Serbia actually have nice triggers. The milsurp variety aren't as crisp or consistent. What both can use are modern sights: You don't need the rear until you're shooting anyway, the gun is single action, so why does the rear have to be so damned tall!

 

[Dentite]

Agreed.

Problem with the 1911 and the 762x25 is the surplus often has hard primers. The mainspring would need to be changed in order to pop them reliably. Even still, I'd have to hit some of my surplus 2-3 times with the M57.

The new M57s out of Serbia actually have nice triggers. The milsurp variety aren't as crisp or consistent. What both can use are modern sights: You don't need the rear until you're shooting anyway, the gun is single action, so why does the rear have to be so damned tall!

Those new M57s look pretty interesting and they are inexpensive as well. The only surplus 7.62x25 ammo I've shot is the nice Yugo stuff. I have about 800 rounds of it left and wish I had 8000. I've had no problems with primer ignition with the Yugo surplus ammo.

Can you elaborate on your last statement about the rear sight height in relation to single action only?

 

[Archaic Weapon]

I got one the other day, and I have no complaints. One of my local gunshops brought in a load of 7.62x25, not even knowing what type of gun it went in, and it's selling for a good price. Hits a lot harder than I was led to believe.

Sorry I didn't have any advice on a replacement sight. I was hoping you would get a bite so I could find one, if need be.

 

[meanmrmustard]

Those new M57s look pretty interesting and they are inexpensive as well. The only surplus 7.62x25 ammo I've shot is the nice Yugo stuff. I have about 800 rounds of it left and wish I had 8000. I've had no problems with primer ignition with the Yugo surplus ammo.

Can you elaborate on your last statement about the rear sight height in relation to single action only?

The rear sight is high, as these were supposedly sighted high and meant to be fired one handed. The rear sight just so happens to clear the hammer as it rests out of battery.

Since the weapon is SAO, the hammer must be back in order to fire, and the sights are useless until the hammer is cocked. So, in theory, low profile sights would be useful as even if the hammer is in the way, can't use the sights til the hammers back. DA/SA with a hammer, the sights must be visible while the hammer is not cocked for that first double action trigger pull. Make sense?

 

[meanmrmustard]

I got one the other day, and I have no complaints. One of my local gunshops brought in a load of 7.62x25, not even knowing what type of gun it went in, and it's selling for a good price. Hits a lot harder than I was led to believe.

Sorry I didn't have any advice on a replacement sight. I was hoping you would get a bite so I could find one, if need be.

No biggy.

I'm paying $.15 a round at my LGS. Unfortunately I've bought them out, and have only 160 rounds left. Can't find Wolf, S&B, or Prvi (which I really want).

Gun should hit VT tomorrow afternoon. Then begins the ludicrous wait for a new gun.

 

[meanmrmustard]

I work in a machine shop, have access to tool steels, stainless, aluminum, etc.

I have mills, lathes, and CNC to use.

I might make my own sights. Going to talk to some of my coworkers, and build prototype sights. Somebody has to do it.