Results of New York Gun Control Day 2008

[Cavalier Knight]

A-76A, mandatory storage, passes 95-35.

A-829, child operated firearms, passes 86-46.

A-3447, expands definition of AP ammo, passes 85-40.

A-3451, expands COBIS, passes 79-49.

A-8700B, creates firearms disqualifications registry, passes 124-0 with no debate.

A-2868, disguised guns, passes 83-46.

A-6525A, gun dealer liability. Phil Boyle offered amendment, found not germane to bill, appealed decision. Amendment fails 83-52. Bill passes 85-53.

A-9819A, microstamping, passes 90-43.

A-7331A, semi-auto prohibition, passes 85-46.

A-2772A, .50 prohibition, passes 85-49.

The pro-gun side was much more animated than in previous years. Debate and voting took over 3 hours.

Speaking on the bills: Brian Kolb, Marc Butler, Greg Ball, Mike Cole, Dan Burling.

Explained their vote: Nancy Calhoun, Dan Burling, Cliff Crouch.

The only antis to speak on the bills were the sponsors. Michele Schimel was far and away the most shill with her prepared speech/diatribe.

Steve Englebright, Charles Levine, Pat Eddington explained their vote on A-9819A.

Matt Titone explained his vote on A-7331A.

I recorded the proceedings and will post the audio on our website in the near future.

Unrelated, A-10154A, requires state agencies and certain covered authorities to purchase handguns from "responsible" suppliers, was amended and resubmitted to Governmental Operations.

Jacob J. Rieper, Legislative Director
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
http://www.nysrpa.org
http://www.rpa-pac.org
Yahoo! Messenger ID: nyrkba

 

[Henry Bowman]

Reads like a declaration of war against the Second Amendment.

 

[bensdad]

Wow.

How do they sleep at night, knowing they have done nothing to fight crime or promote liberty?

 

[Standing Wolf]

How do they sleep at night, knowing they have done nothing to fight crime or promote liberty?

Knowing they've advanced the cause of socialism, they sleep very well.

 

[pdowg881]

Can someone explain more? All this stuff really passed? Is this New York State or New York City? Is this all law or did it only pass thorugh one part (State senate or house?) Need more details.

 

[Old Fuff]

But of course the Governor will veto all of these bill won't he...

I mean..... won't he...

 

[yhtomit]

mrreynolds: ouch! I hope this is NYC, rather than the whole state, but I'm with pdowg881, looking forward (wrong phrase) to more details on at least some of these.

("semi-auto prohibition"?!)

timothy

 

[Six O'clock Tactical]

woah woah woah... what? I havent heard anything about this! semi-auto prohibition? WHAT!??!

Tell me what that means please, cause im kind of having heart palpitations right about now...

 

[Cavalier Knight]

mrreynolds: ouch! I hope this is NYC, rather than the whole state, but I'm with pdowg881, looking forward (wrong phrase) to more details on at least some of these.

All the New Yorkers up or downstate with your mouth hanging open can do a couple of things. Join the NRA to get the NRA-ILA alerts. If you live in New York you should already be a member of the NYSRPA you can actually talk to these people I e mailed:

Jacob J. Rieper, Legislative Director
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
http://www.nysrpa.org
http://www.rpa-pac.org
Yahoo! Messenger ID: nyrkba

Did he stop what he was doing to e mail me back no that would have been to easy. He "called me" stayed on the phone until I had sufficient information. Become a part of the solution. You can join either organization from my site Small Armz but I'm not here to pitch a sale. FYI.

A-76A, mandatory firearms storage. Prohibits keeping loaded firearms for personal protection.

A-829, prohibiting "child operated" firearms.

A-2772A, prohibit the sale and possession of all firearms with a bore diameter over .50" including shotguns.

A-2868, prohibits the possession of guns that look like toys.

A-3447, redefines the definition of AP ammo to include all frangible rounds and those with plastic tips. Would ban most hunting ammo.

A-3451, expands the failed ballistic database COBIS. 200,000 casing collected over the past 7 years at a cost of $28 million with no crimes solved with it.

A-6525A, holds gun dealer liable for 3rd party misuse of a firearm.

A-7331A, prohibits virtually all semi-auto handguns and rifles which use detachable magazines as well as many pump shotguns.

A-9819A, requires "microstamping" on all pistols even though the technology doesn't exist.

 

[perpster]

They still have to pass the Senate (somewhat more conservative than the uber liberal Assembly).

I thought these were coming up on 4/15 not 4/14. I made all my calls and emails late in the day on 4/14. Damn.

Make sure to contact Assy Speaker Silver, Senate Speaker Bruno, your own Assemblyperson and Senator, and the Governor's office.

Maybe Heller will hold out some hope down the road. Other states are going right-to-carry and Castle Doctrine. Not NY.:banghead:

 

[SpeedAKL]

Unbelievable. This is probably the harshest anti-gun legislation we've ever seen in the US.

 

[perpster]

Anyone with NY political savvy willing to hazard a guess on how these bills will fare in the Senate?

 

[karandom]

This has put New York over the edge. Its on my list of never going to live there places.

 

[SpeedAKL]

One of my roommates is from NY and is a big gun guy. He just went to sleep and doesn't know about all this. It's gonna be nasty surprise in the morning

 

[Rmeju]

Wow... I mean just...wow


I'd also be curious as to these bills' viability in the senate.

I hope the supremes are watching this kind of crap when trying to figure out what sort of scrutiny to give the Heller decision!

Yikes, they really went overboard with this one.

Reid

 

[Bobarino]

7331-a - likely irrelevant but do they realize its a muzzle "brake", not a muzzle "break"? what freakin idiots.

Bobby

 

[John G]

Living here is giving me an ulcer. It's bad enough that I can't move to Rochester because of it's "no centerfire semi-auto rifles with six or more rounds capacity" law. Must be all those gangbangers with M1 Garands, ruining it for the rest of us.

 

[PAULREVERE]

Your fellow "assemblyman" are enemies of the people. You guys have some serious problems that need to be corrected.

 

[TAB]

How do they sleep at night, knowing they have done nothing to fight crime or promote liberty?

on top of a pile of cash they have stolen from the citz of NY... its not about fighting crime... its about making them look like they are fighting crime.

 

[rocinante]

Just WOW. Just grateful the concept of state right hasn't totally been strangled by federalism.

This may be wishful thinking but a HUGE mass of bills like that has a desperate last stand, now or never, do or die quality to it.

 

[romma]

likely irrelevant but do they realize its a muzzle "brake", not a muzzle "break"? what freakin idiots.

They have zero clue, trust me...

Watch Senator Mcarthy: from NY

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9rGpykAX1fo

 

[2nd 41]

How do they sleep at night, knowing they have done nothing to fight crime

And the beat goes on.

 

[Lichter]

Here is the NY site so you can actually look the bills up. The procedural history is interesting. Many of these bills have been passed before and have died in the Senate.

http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/

 

[ctdonath]

The NY Assembly is more, um, extreme in what it passes.
The NY Senate tends to be more level-headed against such BS.
The NY Governor will probably sign whatever "anti" legislation reaches his desk (witness: NRA-supported Pataki signed the NY AWB ... and the current guv is a (D)).

Probably at best a toss-up whether any of it gets passed.

Buy what you can while you can.
Or leave. I did.

 

[charon]

Virtually the same basket of joy they are trying to push on us in Illinois. Most of ours are currently stalled in the house, if I'm not mistaken. Daley has been going full court on the high emotion "for the children"<tm> bs with his schools CEO sockpuppet, Arne Duncan and the fully compliant local media trying hard to enrage our otherwise unconcerned state population.

Good Luck NY