Futo Inu,
I posted, "Perhaps that's why 'they' insist that you have an attorney! After all the fact that you hire or accept an attorney admits the jurisdiction of the court!"
You posted, "Actually that statement is flat wrong."
My post was based on the definition given in Black's Law Dictionary, 3rd Edition, page 937. If my statement quoting Black's is flat wrong then you'll have to take that up with Black's Law Dictionary! What's your basis for stating its "flat wrong"? Again Black's states, "......because if pleaded by attorney they admit the jurisdiction, as an attorney is an officer of the court, and he is presumed to plead after having obtained leave, which admits the jurisdiction." If this is 'flat wrong', then why is it in Black's Law Dictionary?
When I filed my Motion to Dismiss in 2nd District Court, Hillsdale County, Michigan I filed it as 'appearing specially and not generally or voluntarily.'
You posted, "Playing the '$hithouse lawyer as you do ....."
Let's see now, I was arrested for failure to get a building permit, did my own legal work, after picking the jury, and opening statements, Judge Sanderson called for a recess, the assn't Prosecutor, Neal Brady asked to speak with me, he stated that after hearing my opening statement he thought that I had a good case and just might win it, he then stated that if I were willing to pay the $14 they would drop all the charges against me. I told Mr. Brady that I couldn't do that, I have principles and even if I lost that day I would not pay the $14. We finished the trial, I was found guilty, fined $200, 6 months probation, and ordered to get in compliance with the building code. I told Judge Sanderson to his face as he sat on the bench that I would not pay the $200 and would not get in compliance with the building code by purchasing that $14 permit! When asked to sign the probation order, I refused because I didn't agree with the terms of the order! I never did pay that $200 fine or get in compliance with the building code or abide by any of the terms of the 'probation order' that I never agreed to or signed! When I was arraigned for 'probation violation' in September of 1994, Judge Sanderson asked me if I was in compliance with the buildling code, I replied absolutely not! As I posted before, his exact responce was,"for the purpose of what we're doing here today, we're going to say that you are in compliance, probation terminated." Now that's what I call Orellian double-speak!
I've already quoted the certified court transcript regarding my 2 minute trial for 'driving' without no operators license, no registration and no insurance, so no point in posting that again. When I filed my 'Motion to Dismiss' pro se on the felony charge of 'resisting and obstructing' a police officer, the felony charge was dismissed by Judge Sanderson, the fingerprint refusal charge was also dropped by Michael R. Smith, Hillsdale County Prosecutor. Was all this just playing a @hithouse lawyer? I think my 'tit' was really in a ringer on that felony charge of 'resisting and obstructing', don't you? But I knew the correct paperwork to file to beat that frivolous charge!
You posted, ......."this is only done if one cannot afford an attorney, or if one is very stupid." Money had absolutely nothing to do with my not hiring an attorney! Was I stupid? Well I think my ability to defend myself, even on that felony charge, speaks volumes all by itself!
I'm not a lawyer, don't speak legaleze and I can only relate my personal experiences with the court system! What I've done worked for me, I haven't been arrested since September of 1995, so what can I say? I do have the feeling that you are an attorney, or a prosecutor, or a judge. What I've done isn't just the ramblings of some madman, I can verify everything that I've posted about! I absolutely feel like I was more than able to hold my own against 'the court system'!