Rock River Mid-Length A2 with 6 position tactical stock legal in CT?
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Glockman17366
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Just call one of your local gun shops..they'll have the answer for you.
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Having looked into this myself, I must say that there is little to anything conclusive regarding whether a 6-position collapsible stock would, in itself, make a rifle violative of CT statutes. Likely, it would not.
However, per C.G.S. 53-202(a), a rifle with a detachable magazine (i.e. an AR-style rifle) will be deemed an "assault weapon" of it has "at least" (to be read as "two or more") features common to an AR-style rifle. Since "pistol grip" is included on the list, and imaginably on your AR, the addition of a collapsible stock would likely run afoul of the law.
Check it out yourself here:http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/pub/Chap943.htm#Sec53-202a.htm
Also keep in mind that the possession or control of parts that can be "rapidly assembled" into an illegal configuration is the same as having the assembled rifle in your possession.
Finally, C.G.S. 1-2z, the "plain meaning rule" is the law of the land in CT in terms of understanding how a statute should be read; trying to argue the engineering merits of a particular stock design (say, the "collapsibility" of a VLTOR design versus a true 6-position M4 style) would be an expensive legal exercise in how "plainly" the 'evil features' statute should be read.
In your situation not too long ago, I decided to go with a RRA Entry fixed stock in order to accomodate my need for a short-stock rifle. I also decided that I will be moving to New Hampshire or out west in May of 2009.
HTH
However, per C.G.S. 53-202(a), a rifle with a detachable magazine (i.e. an AR-style rifle) will be deemed an "assault weapon" of it has "at least" (to be read as "two or more") features common to an AR-style rifle. Since "pistol grip" is included on the list, and imaginably on your AR, the addition of a collapsible stock would likely run afoul of the law.
Check it out yourself here:http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/pub/Chap943.htm#Sec53-202a.htm
Also keep in mind that the possession or control of parts that can be "rapidly assembled" into an illegal configuration is the same as having the assembled rifle in your possession.
Finally, C.G.S. 1-2z, the "plain meaning rule" is the law of the land in CT in terms of understanding how a statute should be read; trying to argue the engineering merits of a particular stock design (say, the "collapsibility" of a VLTOR design versus a true 6-position M4 style) would be an expensive legal exercise in how "plainly" the 'evil features' statute should be read.
In your situation not too long ago, I decided to go with a RRA Entry fixed stock in order to accomodate my need for a short-stock rifle. I also decided that I will be moving to New Hampshire or out west in May of 2009.
HTH
The way I've been reading about the law, between THR and AR15, that configuration would be illegal in connecticut. For an assault weapon classification, they say any semi-auto accepting detachable magazines with two or more "evil" features is considered an Assault Weapon. So with a collapsable stock and pistol grip, it would be illegal.
The way to get around the evil features rule is getting a receiver made before Sept 13, 1994. There is a debate between whether the law says a complete rifle or just a lower receiver, but that is up to you to interpret the law. I guess a guy at Newington Gun Exchange (Lars?) deals a lot with preban lowers, so he would know a lot more. The big thing everyone mentions is to make sure the receiver has paperwork, proving it's made before that date and to have it on hand if someone questions you.
Here's a thread from AR15 with some info. The initial posts are about suppressors, but it gets into the law part. There should be other threads on the CT law on here also.
http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=26&t=272920
Also forgot, No Colt ARs or Colt Sporters, no matter when they were made.
The way to get around the evil features rule is getting a receiver made before Sept 13, 1994. There is a debate between whether the law says a complete rifle or just a lower receiver, but that is up to you to interpret the law. I guess a guy at Newington Gun Exchange (Lars?) deals a lot with preban lowers, so he would know a lot more. The big thing everyone mentions is to make sure the receiver has paperwork, proving it's made before that date and to have it on hand if someone questions you.
Here's a thread from AR15 with some info. The initial posts are about suppressors, but it gets into the law part. There should be other threads on the CT law on here also.
http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=26&t=272920
Also forgot, No Colt ARs or Colt Sporters, no matter when they were made.
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Nomad101bc
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Well AR-15's are legal in CT and I have seen new ones with flash supressors in my local gun store. I do beleive there is some sort of maximum magazine capacity of 10 however in our wonderful home state.
:banghead:Prince Yamato
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I'm curious, I've looked at CT gun laws before and I've only seen the AW ban listing specific makes of AWs and not features, does anyone have a link to the ban listing FEATURES?
Full Clip
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Regarding pistol grips, check the law to see definition of "pistol grip." Due to the specific definition used in CA law, this MonsterMan grip is legal and not an evil feature. Thusly this AR with a detachable mag is legal in CA:
http://www.monstermangrip.com/
http://www.monstermangrip.com/
First thing, I'm glad I'm not in California because I don't think I could handle something as hideous as that, but I guess you have to do what you have to do.
Second, here is a link of the definition of an "Assault Weapon" according to Connecticut.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/pub/Chap943.htm#Sec53-202a.htm
That defines specific models and "evil features".
Later on in that section, this article shows up.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/pub/Chap943.htm#Sec53-202m.htm
I understand it to say that if the gun was made prior to Sept. 14, 1994, then it does not have to be registered as an assault weapon. So if the receiver was pre 9/14/94, then it would be fine to have more "evil" features, like a collapsable stock.
I'm no where near an expert on this stuff, but I've been trying to learn as much as possible.
Lionken07, did you look up Newington Gun Exchange or Hoffman's? You wouldn't be able to get an RRA lower, but that would be the only thing that wouldn't be RRA if you wanted to get their stuff. If you really wanted those features, you'd have to dish out a bit more cash, but it's doable.
Second, here is a link of the definition of an "Assault Weapon" according to Connecticut.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/pub/Chap943.htm#Sec53-202a.htm
That defines specific models and "evil features".
Later on in that section, this article shows up.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2005/pub/Chap943.htm#Sec53-202m.htm
I understand it to say that if the gun was made prior to Sept. 14, 1994, then it does not have to be registered as an assault weapon. So if the receiver was pre 9/14/94, then it would be fine to have more "evil" features, like a collapsable stock.
I'm no where near an expert on this stuff, but I've been trying to learn as much as possible.
Lionken07, did you look up Newington Gun Exchange or Hoffman's? You wouldn't be able to get an RRA lower, but that would be the only thing that wouldn't be RRA if you wanted to get their stuff. If you really wanted those features, you'd have to dish out a bit more cash, but it's doable.
Prince Yamato
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So, it's basically a mirror of the federal law, with the exception of no hi-cap mag ban and they said AK-47 "type" instead of just the specific models listed.
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