still also want to hear about its ruggedness. I do not plan on buying one; my DI AR from CMMG is perfect for me. But, I really want to see how Ruger enters the market here - a market that they never really wanted and helped destroy up until recently.
Ruger AR15 available yet?
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My LGS is taking orders. Ruger has allowed him to order 3, which sounds about right for his size operation. I was eager to purchase, but find myself debating after this weekends gunshow, as I see other brands of AR's coming downin price compared to a few months ago... I love Ruger reliability, but I just cannot make up my mind on this one.
BK
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I'd buy one from a disgruntled purchaser, but only at an unavoidable deal.
Titan6
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$1995? 
I don't know what they are putting in their coffee up there but my gun club has Bushmaster A4s for less than a $1000. I can get flat tops for less than $1000 as well.
I don't know what they are putting in their coffee up there but my gun club has Bushmaster A4s for less than a $1000. I can get flat tops for less than $1000 as well.
Lone_Gunman
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I think that your reaction is typical for people who develop an opinion before looking at the rifle. $1995 is MSRP, and street price will be more like $1500 when it stabilizes. Gas piston ARs normally cost about $400 more than their direct impingement counterparts. Plus, this rifle will have full picatinny rails and come standard with folding sights.
But, don't let me change your mind. I intend to buy one, and I see no reason to make the waiting list one person longer by convincing you...
Titan6
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The flat top I am talking about comes with rails and standard folding sights. Without direct impingement? Do I care? I have been shooting ARs for more than 20 years with direct impingement and have no worries. If the weapon is really "that" superior I might look at it but honestly what good will it do me when I have another that will get the job done just as well for $500 less?
BK
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If the street price is $1,500 I know that I'll never own one. Well, never say never. If it has POF type reviews, I'm in. I just don't anticipate that happening.
If you look at complete rifle prices for gas piston rifles, you will see that they are all close, very close. The LMT is $1995, the POF ranges from $1575-$1995, Bushmasters rifle (a POF without the fluted cold hammer forged barrel and without nickel coated recivers, etc) is $1850. Im not positive on LWRC prices.
Lone_Gunman
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If you don't care about having the gas piston that is fine, but it still costs more to put that feature on a gun. I also have been shooting ARs for twenty years with direct impingement and have no worries about D.I. either. Nevertheless, the gas piston adds to the price of the gun.
It is unfair to compare the price of a gas piston AR to a direct impingement AR. It is also unfair to act shocked that a piston AR costs more. Of course it costs more. If you don't want a gas piston AR, don't buy it. There is no reason to spend that kind of money on a feature you don't care about.
Does the $400 piston actually solve any problem with the AR? Probably not. But that doesn't really matter.. it still costs more. I will probably buy one, but not because I think it is better than a 6920 or LMT... I just want one to play with.
I bought my gas piston rifle because I wanted one.
I have been using the DI system on AR/M-16s for 20 years now, very reliable.
I like the idea of a cooler operating system, and cleaner. As far as price goes, you add a gas piston system to a current rifle and you get a smaller system thats not as good. Get the rifle designed with the system installed and tested.
A friend of mine wants to try a replacement gas piston system on his AR someday now.
The prices of the gas piston systems range from $300-$500 plus, the systems installed OEM are better more expensive systems that require alot more technical know how to instal them, for about the same price.
I have been using the DI system on AR/M-16s for 20 years now, very reliable.
I like the idea of a cooler operating system, and cleaner. As far as price goes, you add a gas piston system to a current rifle and you get a smaller system thats not as good. Get the rifle designed with the system installed and tested.
A friend of mine wants to try a replacement gas piston system on his AR someday now.
The prices of the gas piston systems range from $300-$500 plus, the systems installed OEM are better more expensive systems that require alot more technical know how to instal them, for about the same price.
CoRoMo
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This surprised the heck out of me. I was talking about Ruger and Springfield Armory getting into the AR pool a long time ago, but I never really thought Ruger would be the first one of the two to jump in.
My question is, what is the point of this gun? Are they going the way of S&W and trying to make a quality gun to contract out to LEO and/or military? Or are they in like Stag, just wanting a bit of the civi market? If the latter is their angle, the price is all wrong. Anyhow, I can't wait to hear some reviews from people who don't write in gun related magazines.
Now all Ruger needs to design is their own 1911.
I still think Springfield would/could/should manufacture an M4 of their own.
My question is, what is the point of this gun? Are they going the way of S&W and trying to make a quality gun to contract out to LEO and/or military? Or are they in like Stag, just wanting a bit of the civi market? If the latter is their angle, the price is all wrong. Anyhow, I can't wait to hear some reviews from people who don't write in gun related magazines.
Now all Ruger needs to design is their own 1911.
I still think Springfield would/could/should manufacture an M4 of their own.
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