Ruger Blackhawk .30 carbine anyone?

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I know; Necrothreadia... BUT, I found some interesting advice in this, and wanted to resurrect the thread to ask a couple of new questions.

I traded into a new model Blackhawk in .30 Carbine yesterday. I've read several articles and threads about them, and I'm intrigued. Over the past year and a half I've developed a real affection for scoped pistols, and I traded into the .30 with the idea I'd convert it to a Bisley frame and scope it, (this will be my fourth scoped handgun).

I've found some promising loads developed specifically for the Blackhawk, and I'm hoping to take advantage of them to develop my new toy into a range/varmint piece. I've read a thousand posts that describe the noise level of the .30, so I'm prepared for that. I've also read several notes about stuck cases, so I also picked up 100 rounds of Prvi Patizan (I've had good luck with reloaded PP brass in other difficult calibers).

I was hoping for any last advice/thoughts before I start down this road. I'd love to know if any of my fellow High-Roaders have attempted a similar project. I'd appreciate any load data you'd be willing to share and any advice on scoping the Blackhawk itself. My other handguns were easy to scope: a Buckmark with a factory rail, a GP100 on which I mounted a Weigand combat rail, and a Super Redhawk with factory rings.

Thanks in advance,

KR
 
I have no information to offer as far as scoping and such, but I am also currently intrigued by the 30 carbine blackhawks.. there is one in my local shop that is screaming at me.. I know it does nothing more successfully than anything else, but it sure does seem like a lot of fun. I would also love to see the look on everyone's face when that first round is sent down range... BOOOOOOOOM!!!! (FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 
I've not yet scoped mine, but I think I'd like to eventually. I don't have any use for it otherwise and the front sight is way too short to make POI and POA agree at normal distances.

The noise is somewhat overstated, but it does get folks' attention.

My favorite loads are all H110 and a 110 SP or 125 gr. FP/HP. (I think Sierra makes the one I normally use.)
 
Another question has crossed my mind: Could I load spire point rifle bullets in the .30 Blackhawk? If I go with bullets of the same weight as some of the existing data, and kept my OAL short enough to clear the cylinder's rotation, I can't think of any reason not to try it.

Any advice?

KR
 
Yes, you can, if you can get it in the cylinder.

A 110 grain spire-point has less bearing surface then a 110 RN.

You could run into pressure problems if you have to seat the base of the bullet deeper in the case then a RN of the same weight you use data for.

But, a 110 grain spire-point is designed for about 1,000-2,000 FPS more velocity then a .30 Carbine revolver can produce, so don't expect it to perform as well as a 110 RN carbine bullet on game.

The other thing is, at typical handgun ranges, there would be no trajectory advantage in using them anyway.

rc
 
If it could be loaded to a short enough OAL, most spire points are designed to upset at higher "rifle" velocities. With hunting or other applications, you may get little to no expansion. Any gain in retained velocity of the spire would be negated by a lack of terminal effectiveness. Just a thought. It will obviously depend on the range you plan on using it, and on the construction of the spire your considering.

I've been wondering if 125 FNHP designed for 30-30's would give any expansion at the lower "pistol" speeds. With its wide flat nose and deep cavity it may work well. I'm thinking something in between .38 Spcl and .357 Mag performance. Akin to the new .327, which appears to be very similiar to the .30 carbine in a lot of ways.
 
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