Ruger KP 345 Range Report

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Ruger KP 345 Range Report (45 ACP).

This is just a preliminary report, but I wanted to post a few thoughts about the new KP 345 from Ruger. With all of the odd sentiments on THR regarding this one, ranging from mild interest to outright distaste, I thought I’d toss my hat into the ring with a few opinions regarding my newly purchased KP 345.

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The KP 345.

I selected this particular pistol because the controls are so similar to my daily carry piece, the Bersa Thunder. The DA trigger pull is long (a downside for some, but a selling point for me) and smooth, like my Bersa. The decock / safety functions exactly the same way (forward / up to fire) as my Bersa so switching back and forth between the two shouldn’t be an issue. I found the controls and grip very well designed with everything within easy reach at all times. The profile (see photo) is surprisingly slim as well. Also, aesthetically, I like the looks of the gun. Pretty slick. For all you 1911 aficionados, bear in mind I also own a Kimber Ultra CDP (well, my wife owns it, but I get to shoot it too) but wasn’t comfortable with the idea of IWB cocked & locked carry. I know, I know, it’s safe. But I’ve been spoiled by the Bersa’s decocker. The decision between this gun and a Springfield 1911 Ultra Compact was difficult for me but if today’s range trip is any indication, I’ve got a winner.

Performance

I took it to the range for the first time today and went through a box and then some of CCI ammo (230 gr FMJ). Of the seventy shots taken at various ranges, there were zero FTF’s, FTE’s, or any other malfunctions. In 70 rounds, it performed absolutely flawlessly. POA was POI at 3, 7 and 15 yards. The recoil was probably just a bit stiffer than the Kimber (owing to the polymer frame), but not much. It gave that pleasant kaPOW that .45’s are known for, but it was anything but unmanageable. I went through several double-tap drills and had no problem staying on target.

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The three-dot sights are highly visible against their black bases, again making target acquisition easy.


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Field Stripping

One way this pistol has our Kimber CDP beat is in field takedown. When I get a new gun, I tend to fumble through the first few times until disassembly (and subsequent assembly) becomes second nature but I had this gun stripped in less than a minute the very first time. Nothing to it, and no tools required. Reassembly went equally smoothly. A pleasant surprise. Again, similar to the Bersa in this regard.

The KP 345 came with 2 magazines and a picatinny rail. (Technically, this makes it the KP 345 PR).


Downsides?

1. Magazine disconnect safety.

2. Internal safety (but I'm afraid we're all going to have boxes full of these little keys that will never get used in the very near future).

3. Kind of a cheesy looking serial number plate.


Summary

I like it. I really like it.
 

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I have looked at these ever since they came into my area and have been impressed. I think Ruger may be trying to get closer to a CCW-type weapon without actually doing it. If you don't my asking, how much did you give for this, they are running $425-$450 in my area.

Thanks,
W
 
Been hearing good reports

If you check over on Rugerforum.com (slowest board known to man) you'll hear lots of praise. One thing mention by some is a problem if the recoil spring is put on backwards. Apparently there is one end minutely larger than the other and if you put it on backwards, can cause some problems.

One pistolsmith on the ruger board recommends changing out the mag follower.

Thanks for the good report.
 
Have not shot one yet but felt one up in the shop yesterday, gun fit my hand better than anyhting I've tried in years. Money sitting in account waiting for the day the Decock only model to comes out :D

Ruger is really on roll lately, new vaquero I'd always hoped for, 345, and I've heard them say the success of the 345 has been so great they can't ignore the rest of their auto series for similar update, and recent 5K sale of autos to the Army. Looks like Bill left the company in in good hands...
 
Blueduck...

I think you might be ready to spend *now*, lol. The KP 345 is advertised as "manual safety" but it's actually a decocker. Up fire, down to safe and/or decock. And the decocking action is very smooth.

Joel
 
Holsters:

I just got an Uncle Mike's Pancake Holster with it. Size 10. Kind of generic, but it fits perfectly.

I also tried out an Alessi IWB (made for a Sig P220) and that also fit it nicely.
 
I have the Galco with thumbreak from the Ruger site. I took advantage of the 20% discount on accessories by registering the gun with them. I'm also looking at other holster makers to see what they come out with once they have the gun to size with. Nice review and pics.
 
Birddog,

Nah, I'm waiting for the coming model in 2005 that is "decoker only". Only real difference is the decock lever is spring loaded without a safe position (like G model Beretta).

May not be big deal to some, but I like the fact of never having to wonder whether the safety is on or off (it's always off). Just push the lever up to decock and it springs right back down where it's supposed to be. I'm hearing Feb,Mar before they will be in gunstores in any numbers. Info on RUger site in news section.

Best,
 
Excellent review!
I've wanted to love these ever since I first saw them. The only real downer for me is the mag disconnect. I just can't get past that neutering. I know it's a tiny potentiality, but if you drop the mag and are still fighting, I want to be able to pull the trigger and have it go bang.

I STILL may make this (or the decocker only) my first .45 at some point.

Regards,
FM
 
I handled one the other day and it feels better than the P-95/97's do.If they make it DAO i might have to pick one up.
 
I think you might be ready to spend *now*, lol. The KP 345 is advertised as "manual safety" but it's actually a decocker. Up fire, down to safe and/or decock. And the decocking action is very smooth.

That is Ruger's manual safety. This is the way all Ruger autos that aren't DAO or decock only operate.
 
thanks for posting

I'm glad you posted this - I've liked the looks and feel on the 345 ever since I saw and held it.

Now I have to figure out how to convince myself I need another handgun? Maybe I'll retire my P12?
 
My son bought A Ruger KP345 around the end of December, 2005. He had a few problem's with it & sent it back to Ruger 3 time's before the issues were resolved. He is in N.C. with the Marine's & I haven't been able to shoot it yet. The main problem was FTE. They fixed it & it is fine now. I've been thinking about getting one for myself & saw one at my local gun shop today for $400. I guess I'll go back when they are open again & buy it. I think that it will make a good 45 to carry when I'm at the farm or outdoor's hikeing or fishing.
 
I've had one of these since last October. I like it. It fits my hand well and it shoots very accurate. I have some minor problems with FTE. I found the problem happens most opten if the gun hasn't been cleaned recently and oiled. When this happens at the range I just drop some oil on the slide and rails and the problem goes away. Best to keep it clean. Good luck, I think you'll like the gun.
 
I haven't experienced any FTE's. I'm pretty religious about using just a tiny drop of oil on each side of the slide, then wiping off the excess. Almost but not quite dry in appearance when I'm done.
 
Good review, and thankks for the info. I appreciate it and i am sure that there are many more people that have benifited from it. I have long been interested in that particular pistol, and as a matter of fact, when i was going to buy my very first handgun, it took me so long to decide, but it was between the xd and the p345, i bought the xd but i am still debating picking up the ruger! i think i am gonna wait till someone what's to get rid of one, at a good deal.

Wish it was in .40 cal though

So do I!
 
Ruger KP345PR

I own a Ruger KP345PR and in the instructuctions for field stripping is pretty clear cut but when I reassemble it the manual states to have the large end of the spring in the slide. Does that mean the large end goes towards the bore or towards the trigger. Any help I can get with this would be greatly appreaciated. Thinking about selling the .4ACP and maybe my 9mm. I plan to keep my pre-ban Glock and also my 357s&w 357 model 60. If anyone has time and can give me the correct answer I would truyl appreaciate it.
Best Regards,
Bohdi
 
The large end should go near the bore,the
smaller end toward the trigger.I don't
own a 345 but that's the way it went
in my P-90,95 and 97.
 
Thank you Bpisler,
The manual states placing large end in the slide, uh duh, isn't the whole piece the slide? I have had this gun sent back to Ruger and they replaced about 4 parts and also retooled one part. The very first time I shot it it jammed. I am thinking about turning it in to the shop for them to sell. I'm thinking maybe it just has too much of a recoil for me to handle hence the stovepipe. The very first load jammed. It just doesn't give me that comfy cozy feel. I have had no problems at all with my Glock .40 ot my S&W model 908 9mm. Thanks again for the info, I will check it out at the range this weekend and if it still jams it's up for sale.

Take Care,
Bohdi


They will have to pull my guns out of my cold dead hands before I give them up! Damned these anti-gun reps in the Senate! NRA will prevail! The amendments were written for a reason, they can't just change the 2nd am:cuss: endment as they see fit for their purpose. :banghead:
 
Bohdi, I own one and bpisler is correct. The large end definitely goes in at the barrel end of the slide. Mine's been remarkably reliable but as you say, the recoil might be too much for you. How big are you? I'm 6' tall at 210.
 
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