dragoon-brit
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This a little long!! my first post!
I have a 1983 Ruger M77 Bolt-Action Rifle, two position safety (Tang?). I purchased it new, but never shot it much, always used a Bow for Elk/Moose and a 257 Roberts for Deer/Antelope. I never like the trigger. Now age tells me to use a Gun. So I had a Timney install by a Tucson, Az Gunsmith (Murphy’s). Love the trigger feel, as good as my custom 257 but:
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First round: safety on, pulled trigger, flipped safety off, gun fires!
Back to Murphy’s (4hr round trip): Gunsmith said a wood chip was caught in the trigger!
Second round fired: safety on, pulled trigger, safety off, pull trigger, 10 seconds click bang~
Back to Murphy’s: They had fired the gunsmith, but Murphy look at it him self:: checked “OK”.
Third round fired: pulled trigger, heard click, waited 15 min., touch bolt, bang!!
NOW I am Ruger shy!! Scarey!! Glad I was at the Range!!
So here is where I am at now:
I purchased a box of factory loads: 10 shots fired fine, loaded a reload, only fired when I touched the bolt.
Took the gun home dry fired 30-50 times: never failed.
Load a box with just primer: 10 failed until bolt is touched!
A friend suggested case length: Checked/trimmed cases, loaded primers:: 16 fired, 1 failed and 3 would not load, poped the primers on the three and they loaded!
Loaded a 3rd box, rechecked case length, this time I cleaned primer seat, installed primers. All loaded but 1 failed until bolt was touched!
So I have learned that case length is critical, but I still think that these are symptoms: 19 or 20 is no good.
I suspect that the trigger is not adjusted correct, or bad. I cannot find a manual on line, or a Timney web site. My install manual is at Murphy’s somewhere. I only see one adjusting screw.
Could it be not releasing the firing pin all the way, or the bolt closing but now seating all the way? I do not see any signs of head separation.
Last: anyone know of a GOOD gunsmith in Southern Arizona?
Any help/suggestion would be appricated.
I have a 1983 Ruger M77 Bolt-Action Rifle, two position safety (Tang?). I purchased it new, but never shot it much, always used a Bow for Elk/Moose and a 257 Roberts for Deer/Antelope. I never like the trigger. Now age tells me to use a Gun. So I had a Timney install by a Tucson, Az Gunsmith (Murphy’s). Love the trigger feel, as good as my custom 257 but:
-------
First round: safety on, pulled trigger, flipped safety off, gun fires!
Back to Murphy’s (4hr round trip): Gunsmith said a wood chip was caught in the trigger!
Second round fired: safety on, pulled trigger, safety off, pull trigger, 10 seconds click bang~
Back to Murphy’s: They had fired the gunsmith, but Murphy look at it him self:: checked “OK”.
Third round fired: pulled trigger, heard click, waited 15 min., touch bolt, bang!!
NOW I am Ruger shy!! Scarey!! Glad I was at the Range!!
So here is where I am at now:
I purchased a box of factory loads: 10 shots fired fine, loaded a reload, only fired when I touched the bolt.
Took the gun home dry fired 30-50 times: never failed.
Load a box with just primer: 10 failed until bolt is touched!
A friend suggested case length: Checked/trimmed cases, loaded primers:: 16 fired, 1 failed and 3 would not load, poped the primers on the three and they loaded!
Loaded a 3rd box, rechecked case length, this time I cleaned primer seat, installed primers. All loaded but 1 failed until bolt was touched!
So I have learned that case length is critical, but I still think that these are symptoms: 19 or 20 is no good.
I suspect that the trigger is not adjusted correct, or bad. I cannot find a manual on line, or a Timney web site. My install manual is at Murphy’s somewhere. I only see one adjusting screw.
Could it be not releasing the firing pin all the way, or the bolt closing but now seating all the way? I do not see any signs of head separation.
Last: anyone know of a GOOD gunsmith in Southern Arizona?
Any help/suggestion would be appricated.