Ruger MK III - 22/45 or Beretta NEOS?

[iafirebuff]

A little background - I have a Walther P22 and a Sig Mosquito - with that in mind, I am looking for a pistol that is a little more accurate. I am getting back into the shooting hobby after an 18 year vacation from the hobby. I have been praticing for an upcoming CCW class. I am looking for a pistol that is more accurate than what I have. I have found 3 guns locally - the Ruger MKIII, the MKIII 22/45 and the Beretta NEOS - out of these 3, what would you all recommend for me? THANKS for any help/advice!

 

[jjohnson]

Go Ruger.

I've seen several similar questions on these forums over the past year, and when they use polls, about 50% come in Ruger and the other 50% is "everybody else."

I can't say the NEOS isn't good - but the controls are a little strange if you're used to a 1911 format. I shoot my 22/45 all the time, and it's one heck of an accurate pistol, with controls that I like. Mine's a six-inch target model with bull barrel.

One thing you do know about the Ruger - the design has been around for over half a century, and they've produced God only knows how many of them, but Ruger's not ashamed to do engineering changes. Over the years, the modifications have been absolutely minimal. Why? Very good design to start with.

I consider the NEOS to be 'yet unproven' measured against the Ruger.

I'd recommend the 22/45 in a target version if you're up for accuracy. I'm absolutely happy with mine.

And I'm picky.

 

[G. Freeman]

I have 3 ruger MK-II's, all of them function flawlessly but I changed the extractor to a Volquartsen exact edge extractor for improved reliability. I can shoot up to 500 rounds and even more without cleaning the gun. My vote goes to Ruger.

 

[RPCVYemen]

I bought a Neos, and although it's very simple, I am not convince myself that it was very accurate. I wish I had gotten the Mark III.

Mike

 

[Cypress]

Ruger

 

[benderx4]

I've got the Ruger Mark III as well and it continually shoots a heck of a lot better than I can.

 

[iafirebuff]

THANKS for the tips! Ruger it is! Now to figure out which one - the Mark III or the Mark III 22/45..........

 

[XavierBreath]

If you are looking at the pistol as a training tool, especially for a 1911 type pistol, the 22/45 gets the nod. If you are looking at it as an accurate plinker or target gun in it's own right, the MKIII is more apt.

The real difference is in the grip angle.

My personal preference has always been the Ruger MKII, but they are no longer made, and they might not be the best choice for you.

 

[tlen]

THANKS for the tips! Ruger it is! Now to figure out which one - the Mark III or the Mark III 22/45..........

I opted for a MKIII678 because the Mark III 22/45 grip [frame] was so thin. [The MKII 22/45 grips are much wider and more comparable to a 1911]. You can put after market wood or soft rubber thumb rest grips on the standard MKIII models but with the 22/45 what you see is it.
http://www.guntalk-online.com/service.html

 

[JohnnyOrygun]

Ruger and I have the MkIII 22/45 and I love it, it's more accurate than I am and never had any kind of problem... none, zip, zilch. I have big hands and have no problem with the grips on the 22/45, but as tlen says, what you see is what you get.

Good Luck
Little John

 

[iafirebuff]

I just go back from my favorite gun store - Cedar Valley Outfitters for those in Iowa - located in Marion, IA. He had the Ruger P512MKIII 22/45. The price on the tag was $269 - $31 cheaper than our local Scheel's store (which I don't care for - that is a whole other story). So he rang me up and said "I made ya a deal" I looked at the receipt - WOW he sold it to me for $225 - and this is a new in box gun! So, off to the range tomorrow - I can't wait. Thanks to all for your help!

 

[floydster]

Stay away from the 22/45, you will need an engineering degree to field strip and up back together, it is an absolute joke!!!
Floydster:banghead:

 

[acmax95]

My friend has a NEOS and he really likes it. I have shot it and it was okay. However, I recently got my hands on an unfired Ruger Mark II w/ a 10" bull barrel, and it is sweet. Between the two guns I would take the Ruger anyday of the week.

 

[cliffy]

Ruger Mark III Competition Model

A 6 7/8" barrelled, stainless steel work of art that weighs 45 ounces proves exactly what I wanted as a Rattlesnake barrier. With 40 grain CCI Hollow Point Velocitors, this a potent sidearm. No stovepipes; no misfires; no doubts. As far as accuracy goes, no misses even under duress. I actually like that weight on my hip, feels like I have something viable. A slab-sided Bull Barrel .22 LR is truly comforting accuracywise. CCI Velocitors have no peers for defense against snake-bite. Quick-cocking and smooth from the holster . . . wow! I feel I chose right for my usage. The Mark III offers a "chamber-loaded" indicator, a cannot fire with magazine out, an internal lock, over the Mark II. Whether these features are advantagous or not is personal preference. I have no problems regarding these safety features. The fairly long sight radius only enhances aimability. cliffy

 

[brett30030]

Ruger

 

[SoCalShooter]

I recommend the MKIII I have not had the opportunity to shoot a neos its a nice looking gun however. But my MkIII 5"bull barrel target model can hold the x ring with cheap ammo at 25 yards and there is a significant amount of after market accessories for it, granted its a little pain in the but to disassemble but I only field strip mine and do a complete cleaning about ever 5 matches or so. But I snake it every match and lube it up. Besides once you figure out how to fully dissemble it and reassemble it is not so bad.

 

[iafirebuff]

Thanks again for the tips! I ended getting the Ruger P512MKIII 22/45 - going to go shoot it today

 

[jjohnson]

Disassembly & Reassembly (read)

Good for you, boy! You did GOOD!

I love my 22/45, and will probably die attempting to wear it out.... no luck so far.

The comment about assembly/disassembly is well noted. You can take the Ruger apart with that funny lever in the grip, but READ THE INSTRUCTIONS when you put it back together! It only works upside down, barrel tilted, trigger back..... Honest, it's a great gun, but if you take it apart, the instructions will save you the embarrassment of taking it back to a gunsmith.

It's not hard to reassemble, and the instructions are simple enough, but you will regret it if you ignore the reassembly steps and try to force it together.

 

[iafirebuff]

I read the link above and watched the video on youtube. When I take it apart I plan on going step by step with the instructions in front of me Heading out to the range shortly - can't wait. I could no tpass this gun up - even before he gave me a hugh discount

 

[Jolly Rogers]

I read the link above and watched the video on youtube. When I take it apart I plan on going step by step with the instructions in front of me Heading out to the range shortly - can't wait. I could no tpass this gun up - even before he gave me a hugh discount

All you need is the Guntalk link. Bullseye is the most knowledgable smiff out there in webland on the Ruger MK autos.
Joe

 

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

Disassembly/reassembly is no big deal--if you can't learn how to do it--you have bigger problems than shooting .22's.