I just went to Ruger.com to look up the Red Label Shotgun in hopes Ruger was now offering a 20ga. I could not find any reference to the shotgun. Am I missing something or has Ruger taken their Red Label down from the web for some reason?
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They were discontinued them, a couple years ago I think.
http://www.ruger.com/products/redLabel/index.html
http://www.ruger.com/products/redLabel/index.html
They were brought back and discontinued again. Seems they cannot make it work for what they wanted to sell them for. There's a lot more to making a quality O/U than most folks realize. A used Beretta in 20 will be a sweet handling gun.
rbernie
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And they really hadn't fixed the issues from the last time either. Shotguns just do not seem to be Ruger's forte.
Too bad. I was hoping that success with the over under would lead to a side by side of decent quality for clays and a sass model.
They weren't making the money Ruger wanted to make off of them. That's a little different than they couldn't sell them. I would've bought one, myself, had i ever actually seen one in a store.
I owned one from the first incarnation - the 28, which was supposed to the the perfect one from them...............it wasn't. After three tries to get it right from them, it went away.
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What trouble did you have? The reason I ask is I too bought a 28 in around 2000 I think. I only use it part of the time hunting quail and pen raised pheasants and have probably fired less than 10 boxes of 1 oz. loads out of it. I know that isn't exactly "heavy use" but its been trouble free.
What trouble did you have? The reason I ask is I too bought a 28 in around 2000 I think. I only use it part of the time hunting quail and pen raised pheasants and have probably fired less than 10 boxes of 1 oz. loads out of it. I know that isn't exactly "heavy use" but its been trouble free.
Mine was much earlier - the main issues was the ejectors would slip over the rims of the hulls resulting in jamming the gun. They replaced everything inside and still could not get it right.
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Thanks 1 oz.
I have not had that problem and believe me I have dumped two fired cases and jammed one or two live rounds in as fast as possible without trouble. Also, firing one barrel and not needing the second, slowly breaking open and using my free right hand to catch the ejected shot shell has worked fine.
My complaint, the gun is loose, even from new. I bought a much used Superposed 12 ga. Broadway Trap gun in the 70's. I didn't have a lot of money at the time and paid almost 800 dollars for it. I knew the gun and the owner. It had been fired at least 60,000 times before I bought it. I probably put at least another 30,000 through it and this brand new Ruger was looser breaking open than that old Browning.
I have not had that problem and believe me I have dumped two fired cases and jammed one or two live rounds in as fast as possible without trouble. Also, firing one barrel and not needing the second, slowly breaking open and using my free right hand to catch the ejected shot shell has worked fine.
My complaint, the gun is loose, even from new. I bought a much used Superposed 12 ga. Broadway Trap gun in the 70's. I didn't have a lot of money at the time and paid almost 800 dollars for it. I knew the gun and the owner. It had been fired at least 60,000 times before I bought it. I probably put at least another 30,000 through it and this brand new Ruger was looser breaking open than that old Browning.
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When I bought the Ruger I did not realize I bought a Yugo. Ruger #1's are not Yugo's, Ruger single actions are not, Ruger 77's are not, no other Ruger is a yugo. I'm missing the point.
Granted, a Red Label is definitely not a Superposed. I was using it as some kind of comparison. I could have picked a Win 101, or a Remington 3200, both of which I have owned and shot.
My point was the Ruger was sloppily loose from the get go. It doesn't mean I'll get rid of mine. And it doesn't mean I'll buy a Beretta 28 ga. o/u either.
When I bought the Ruger I did not realize I bought a Yugo. Ruger #1's are not Yugo's, Ruger single actions are not, Ruger 77's are not, no other Ruger is a yugo. I'm missing the point.
Granted, a Red Label is definitely not a Superposed. I was using it as some kind of comparison. I could have picked a Win 101, or a Remington 3200, both of which I have owned and shot.
My point was the Ruger was sloppily loose from the get go. It doesn't mean I'll get rid of mine. And it doesn't mean I'll buy a Beretta 28 ga. o/u either.
Ruger locked in on a manufacturing cost point so they could meet a sales price with an acceptable profit margin. They could not make the combination work. They would not adjust their targets. Sort of like the way they will not stop screwing in the barrels too tight on their revolvers so you don't have to lap the barrels for best accuracy. I like Ruger, but damn they are hardheaded.
Remember with Bill gone, bean counters rule the day. I agree with the above about their rifles and handguns. I owned a #1 RSI in 243; selling that was one of the dumber things I have done as far as guns go.
I have one of the old ones in 20 with straight stock. Never had a problem with it what so ever. All this is news to me. My Red Label is the best shooting shot gun I've ever picked up.
Mark
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The problem was never that they turned out some good ones, it was that they turned out too many bad ones. And some of those they could not even fix.
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I always found that owners of the blued framed Red Labels, the first ones, love em, heavy per gauge but great shotguns. The investment cast framed ones were having all the troubles and subsequently started turning people away from them. I guess now after yet another discontinuance of the Red Label they never came back.
I could get alot more interested in the Red Label if it came with double triggers...I'm too klutzy to use a selector switch. 
I set it and forget when using my Browning O/U; although when I shoot a SxS, it just ain't right without an English straight grip and double triggers.....
At some point I may get a double. I've come to the conclusion that either Beretta or Browning are the way to go. Till that day, I'm content to keep shucking with my Mossberg 500. I've done it enough that pumping is just second nature n
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