Rumor: Cheney to Resign; Rice as V.P.

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I have been praying for this! I think Condi would be a much better President then gun grabber gulianni and john McLib
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/19/111925.shtml?et=y
Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2005 11:13 a.m. EDT
Rumor: Cheney to Resign; Rice as V.P.
After a Washington Post story suggesting that Vice President Dick Cheney’s office is involved in the Plame-CIA investigation, rumors are flying around Washington that Cheney might step aside – and be replaced by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

"If that should happen, there will undoubtedly be those who believe the whole thing was orchestrated – another brilliant Machiavellian move by the VP,” a White House insider told Paul Bedard of U.S. News & World Report.

Some observers are whispering that the driving force behind the Rice-for-Cheney scenario is political pundit Dick Morris’ new book "Condi vs. Hillary: The Next Great Presidential Race.”

In the book, Morris and co-author Eileen McGann warn that Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the U.S. unless she can be stopped.

And Condoleezza Rice, they say, is the only Republican who can win the GOP nomination, beat Hillary and hold on to the White House for the GOP.
A move now to elevate Condoleezza to the vice president’s position would better prime her for a run against Hillary in 2008.

Even better would be , Condi as VP then Bush resigns! and JC Watts as VP...I can dream can't I
 
Rice has said that she wont run, but that dosen't mean she wouldn't accept being asked to fill the VP spot mid-term. Then, if she did indeed run next election, she would have all the advantages of an incumbency, and yet still be a "First term".
This would be a VERY slick move by the GOP. It's already "known" that she could beat Shrillary, and it can be pointed out that she has held higher office, and is more capable of the position then the carpetbagger. All these (and more) varied reasons to hold the Repub. vote, AND the Race/Gender advantages thrown in.
Only possible drawbacks I can see, is the forign policy problems associated with the current Presidency being held against her either because of Bush's decisions, or her current position. Or maybe just the fact that she is a Repub.

I would just love to hear somewhere in her campain... "If I am elected, there will come a time when I will have to leave the White House.. When I do, rest assured I already HAVE a set of dishes" :D
 
Don't they have an order to replace them? If Delay gets out of legal trouble, wouldn't it be him because he's next in line after VP?
 
I think it would be good. Even though she has said she wont run im sure plenty have said that and then run anyway. Take the heat off her a bit and let it go to people that say they will run. Plus I think she just might do a bit better job.

That and Chenny isn't lookin to healthy these day's. Don't know if the pres goes down I trust a guy thats getting another surgery every other week to fill in lol.
 
Yeah, taking power after a scandal worked wonders for Gerald Ford in 1976.

Not that I'm in any way comparing Ford to Rice.

Rick
 
Yeah, taking power after a scandal worked wonders for Gerald Ford in 1976.

The 1976 Presidential Election _used_ to be the one people used as an example of an "extremely close election." You change a couple thousand votes and Gerald Ford was elected President instead of Jimmy Carter. Actually pretty surprising it was that close considering the pasting the GOP had taken over Watergate.

Gregg
 
VARifleman said:
Don't they have an order to replace them? If Delay gets out of legal trouble, wouldn't it be him because he's next in line after VP?


No, the lines of succession only work if the President dies or steps down while in office. Then the VP takes over. If the VP is not available (also dead, for instance), then the Speaker of the House (I think?) is next in line.

However, if the VP resigns or dies while the President is still alive and in office, the President appoints a successor. That's how Gerald Ford became VP when Spiro Agnew resigned and then became President when Nixon resigned.

If I'm wrong, I'm sure one of the fine constitutional scholars on the board will correct me. :)
 
VARifleman said:
Don't they have an order to replace them? If Delay gets out of legal trouble, wouldn't it be him because he's next in line after VP?

Speaker (Hastert) would be third in line if both the VP and Potus were incapacitated. If one resigns, an appointment will be made as Gerald Ford and Nelson Rockefeller were elevated to the Vice Presidency.

On edit...I was a tad slow typing
 
This sounds more like wishful thinking from the lib whackos.

The lefties, particularly the ones in the media, have been doing their best to create the impression that Rove and Cheney are already convicted and disgraced. This is far from true, as there is very little objective evidence either did anything wrong. Bu tthat doesn't prevent the media from discussing, for instance, what kind of prison jumpsuits they'll be wearing.

This report sounds like another attempt to trick the population into thinking that Cheney has done something worth resigning over. Sorry libs, it just ain't so.

Now if the report cited Cheney's health (heart condition) then I might believe it has some truth. But the libs won't be able to hang Cheney or Rove on the Plame matter, and they know it.
 
...there is very little objective evidence either did anything wrong. Bu tthat doesn't prevent the media from discussing, for instance, what kind of prison jumpsuits they'll be wearing.

Well, yeah, sure, but what passes for "news" these days has little or nothing to do with facts and everything to do with editorial positions.
 
Well, if Cheney does resign (for whatever reason) the new VP should be someone who isn't electable, because the GOP is going to want to run a outsider cantidate in '08. Rice seems to fit the bill. Not because she'd be a bad president, but she's already an insider and has said she won't run.

Plus, it would really blow the libs' collective heads off if Bush got sick and Condi became the first black and first woman president, even just for a few days :D
 
I really doubt he'll resign over this, but in the next 12 months I could see a health related problem that would force him out. They need to start grooming the replacement, and Cheney is in the way.
 
I think ya'll are letting Condi's stance on guns cloud your judgment. A VP incumbency is not a real advantage when an unpopular administration. The Iraq war is her war, and there is no grace from that. The election would be a referendum on the war in Iraq. Hillary's would be the more popular position and would obscure other issues. I would side with Condi but am not encouraged by what too many Americans seem to think is important.
 
Who is Cheney?
He first came to fame playing the 'Hunchback of Notre Dame' back in the silent era. Well noted for his ability to disguise himself, and the lengths he would go to for realistic makeup.
 
The election would be a referendum on the war in Iraq. Hillary's would be the more popular position and would obscure other issues. I would side with Condi but am not encouraged by what too many Americans seem to think is important.
Agreed. So the next move would be to have Rice as VP broker the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, taking that issue off the table.
 
Condi as VP then Bush resigns! and JC Watts as VP
Condi as President would be OK by me but what is it with JC Watts lately.

This is about the 3'rd or 4'th time this week I've heard his name mentioned in regards to high national office.

I remember when he was the Congressman in the district Norman, OK is in. No shining star, kinda dumb, the only reason he got any face time at all was he was the sole black Repugnican who rode to fame in OK based on his being a star footballer at OU (A lot of Oklahomans are really, really wierd when it comes to OU - there'r folk here who can't even spell OU let alone get into it or graduate from it but by GOD and country the OU football team is their team - when it's winning that is).

Add to that that Watts was involved in some pretty shaky and barely legal (and IMO unethical) bond and real estate deals and the very thought of him becoming VP and potentially President gives me the willies.
 
Does this remind anyone iof someone in a high national office today?
Uh, no. He can't be both dumb and Machiavellian at the same time. He seems to consistently confound his critics. The best thing about him IMO is how he enrages liberals.
 
Condi for Pres?

I am very confused as to why eveyone is rushing to put Condi in office.

Would someone please tell me what she stands for (besides a supposed pro-2A)? I have yet to see anyone applaud her stance(s) on any issue as a means of nomination. The ONLY reason people are talking about her at all is because she can "beat Hillary" and would put the Dems in a "tough position" facing a Black Female candidate. Let me let y'all in on a little secret...as best I can tell from the last 17 years of Political watching I've been doing the Dems could care less about their "image". They say/do anything they want and the spineless Repubs roll over and wet themselves, never calling the Dems on their words or deeds.

I am not necessarily for or against her, I just don't know enough about her to start promoting her as "our savior".

And, isn't this giving a little too much power to Dick Morris? He's a pundit for goddnes sake...not the Godfather.
 
btw.....given the choice.....I'd pick Condi over Hillary for pres.....if I bother to go out that day and vote at all.

We don't know much about Condi, but sure know too much about Hillary.
 
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