Kingofthehill
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working at a range, owning several, and shooting competition and training classes.... i have NEVER seen one rust.
JOe
JOe
I think you're oversimplifying things a bit Jon, in fact you do understand that many of these rusting pistols were that way from the box, don't you? Make it kind of hard for the lazy, whining, ingrates that purchase them to prevent the oxidation when it's already at work on the steel....How did you guys survive when guns only had bluing on them?
I've lived in West Virginia for the last 8 years. This state is the most unbearable humid and wet place every. My deck and porch have mold on them all the time, the ground is mud about 60% of the summer and 100% of the fall, winter, and spring. It rains most of the winter. My guns are all in my basement next to my washer and dryer and they don't rust. A couple of the rifles sit in my garage taking all the extremes of the weather and don't rust. My carry gun doesn't rust and my P32 I took hiking in the woods INCLUDING dips in the creek with it in my pocket didn't rust. Good Lord, do a little maintenance.
If you are one of the rare few whose M&P rusts because you can't manage to maintain it Smith is even nice enough to replace it for you free of charge. That seems beyond generous to me.
Glocks are more accurate, reliable, durable and PROVEN.
REAPER4296969 said:I got the M&P back today (13 days) and they replaced:
1)Slide.
2)Extractor.
3)Mag catch.
and...wait for it...
ADDED NIGHT SIGHTS! It also feels like they did something to the trigger! Very nice.
That is some great CS. They've sent me quite a few free grip extensions. Some companies should really start to emulate *cough*chough...Taurus.
Go Glock. Glocks are more accurate, reliable, durable and PROVEN.
I think you're oversimplifying things a bit Jon, in fact you do understand that many of these rusting pistols were that way from the box, don't you?
I did just that, bought an M&P 9c at the shop, looked it over beforehand, got it home and immediately found the oxidation I had missed at the shop! The blackened slide makes it a thing you can miss under the wrong lighting conditions Jon....Never said that Glock doesn't slip a lemon buy once in a while, it can happen to the best of them, and it does....It's just that if you're looking to compare the M&P with Glock(and all S&W fans going all the way back to the Sigma do)you're going to find a significantly higher percentage of flaws in the S&W's.....Yummy, yummy Kool-Aid.
No bobby68, it only includes the M&P autos because revolvers don't compete with the Glock. If they did they would find reasons to whine about them too.
Thats right. Guys are going to the gun store and picking out the gun that has the rust spots on it or they are buying the gun they haven't seen and handled. Then coincidentally, that happens to be the ones that have the rusting problems. Your right, its not that simple at all. How about if you are buying an M&P, check it for rust and if you find the one in a million pistol that has a problem, don't buy it. That sounds simple enough to me. Simply put, only a very small number of M&Ps have had any problems with ANYTHING. The vast majority have been and are totally reliable and rust free. Some people seem to have an agenda to try to prove otherwise, but I simply don't listen to them because I know better.
BTW. Don't tell anyone but there are a few Glocks that rust too. Its a secret so shhhhhh.....
http://gunlovers.19.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=1837
It's just that if you're looking to compare the M&P with Glock(and all S&W fans going all the way back to the Sigma do)you're going to find a significantly higher percentage of flaws in the S&W's.....
Applying melonite to the stainless steel is obviously problematic for S&W, and the vendor in charge of the acid bath treatment...I have seen a half dozen rusting M&P's with my own eye's! While I have heard of it, I've never seen a rusting Glock, ever!While I certainly respect your right to have an opinion, as an owner and armorer for both the Glock and M&P pistols I'd be more than a little reluctant to make that definitive of a statement.
Too bad, but it's not about exploding Glock's, it's about the ongoing problem of rusting S&W M&P pistols...Which you have ridiculously attempted to pawn off as consumer neglect.....Personally I believe the design and performance of both the Glock and M&P are so similar it is disingenuous to beat your chest claiming one is better than the other. It boils down to personal preference and you can't tell people they have to prefer the same thing you do. M&Ps have had a few issues. So have the Glocks. You can't judge the entire line on the occasional lemon that slips through the cracks.
What if the title of this thread was, "Do Glocks blow up easily?" You would have had the same types of conversation you have here. There would be a few bashers backing up the statement claiming its the gods honest truth for the whole series. Take it all for what its worth.
Applying melonite to the stainless steel is obviously problematic for S&W, and the vendor in charge of the acid bath treatment...I have seen a half dozen rusting M&P's with my own eye's! While I have heard of it, I've never seen a rusting Glock, ever!
Further, the accounts of rusting M&P slides seems to have remained static, with S&W quietly replacing them as they turn up, there's another current thread in this very forum addressing the superiority of S&W CS relating to this exact problem....