Fat Boy
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Looking at an S&W model 58 in .41 mag. Wondering about a couple of things; first, if i am reading correctly, this is a K-frame gun? If so, is that frame strong enough to handle the round?
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It's the same Frame SIZE, but differs from the N frame used for the M57 and M29 because it is machined for a fixed rear sight instead of an adjustable target sight. But, yes, both are N frames. OP: The M58 will easily handle full power .41 magnum loads as often as you want to pull the trigger, but I guarantee your hand will get tired before the gun does. The PC magna is the standard stocks for the M58, a bit smaller than target stocks, which will fit and make the concussion more bearable. I tried a set of Altamont target-size stocks on mine, but like the looks of the smaller PC's better. Both hurt my arthritic hand after a while, so I just left the PC magnas on it.The model 58 is an N frame, same frame as the model 29 44 magnum.
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With the S&W 69 44mag L frame using today's technology, a L frame 41mag would be a great little revolver. K frame would not handle the recoil of the standard magnum loads.
Wow. WisBorn, if I ever knew about the Model 69, I had forgotten all about it. I thought S&W had made a 44 Special on the L frame but I was clueless that they had made a 44 Magnum. That's what I like about this place; I learn things!
It sure would! I'd trade my L frame S&W 69 44mag for a S&W L frame 41 Mag in a heartbeat.With the S&W 69 44mag L frame using today's technology, a L frame 41mag would be a great little revolver.
Look at the top picture in post #12, the original instruction and care sheet shows you are correct. After S&W started model numbers in 1957, it became less common to refer to the gun by its original name, even though many still were advertised by the name. I find it odd that the M58 was given a name, since it was not released until 1964, seven years after S&W started using model numbers.IIRC, Smith & Wesson called the Model 58 the "41 Magnum Military & Police". Since the K-frame had been known since the start as the Military & Police Model, this may have confused people into thinking the Model 58 was a K-frame gun. That is, IF I have remembered correctly. I notice nobody in this thread has used that model name, which gives me pause. Google seems to back me up, but I've been fooled before.
Look at the top picture in post #12, the original instruction and care sheet shows you are correct. After S&W started model numbers in 1957, it became less common to refer to the gun by its original name, even though many still were advertised by the name. I find it odd that the M58 was given a name, since it was not released until 1964, seven years after S&W started using model numbers.
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I suppose for advertising purposes the name is still handy and is more descriptive, but the model number is more definitive and gets used more to identify the gun, especially with the series dash added to it. The names confuse me as well, trying to remember which one is a "Combat Masterpiece" versus a "Combat Magnum". Those names are correct for the particular gun all the way back to its origin, so using them doesn't give much clue as to the age when discussing one. The last new S&W I ever bought was back in the 1980's, and it was a M459 semiauto, which I no longer have. I generally only use the model number myself, and don't even recognize some of the "given names". Plus, my focus on desired guns is fairly narrow, my shortcoming when seeing a reference to a gun using its name rather than model.Doesn't S&W still its guns names? The Model 69 is a "Combat Magnum", for instance, and has that stamped on the barrel.