Glockamania®
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That's why Gaston made the GLOCK 17 with internal safety features.
Safety or No Safety
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That's why Gaston made the GLOCK 17 with internal safety features.
Silvanus
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For a SA, in order to carry it C&L, I think a safety is a good idea. But for everything else (DA, DAO, "Safe Action", DAK, LEM, QA, and I'm sure there are more
) I think they are useless. But that's just my personal opinion. I'm sure there are some people who want a safety on a DA handgun.
Oh and by the way, I really love my Glock 17, but I hate that stupid trigger safety. It friggin hurts when my hands are cold (like last weekend and in the next few months to come
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) I think they are useless. But that's just my personal opinion. I'm sure there are some people who want a safety on a DA handgun.Oh and by the way, I really love my Glock 17, but I hate that stupid trigger safety. It friggin hurts when my hands are cold (like last weekend and in the next few months to come
)curmudgeon and anarchist
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Good arguments pro and con. However, I don't think "too stupid" to flip the safety off has any place in this discussion. I'm talking about matters of muscle memory. If you have a gun with a safety and a gun without, and you shoot both of them, there may be some confusion when reacting to a situation quickly.
I have decided to do without. My XD45 has a grip safety and a firing pin safety, and all my other guns have firing pin safeties. No external safety for me. If someone tries to grab my gun the barrel will already be hot by the time he gets his hand on it.
I have decided to do without. My XD45 has a grip safety and a firing pin safety, and all my other guns have firing pin safeties. No external safety for me. If someone tries to grab my gun the barrel will already be hot by the time he gets his hand on it.
Hokkmike
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I strongly prefer manual safeties and decockers both, ala Bersa and Beretta. Accidental death or injury is no substitute for macho.
Muddflap
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It's gotta be what works for you. I am perfectly comfortable with my DA/SA Sigs. The holsters cover the trigger, and I keep my finger off it, until I know what I'm going to shoot.
Stuffing a cocked and locked 1911 in a holster and carrying it all day long is something I can't do at this time of my life, and I know people do it all the time.
Stuffing a cocked and locked 1911 in a holster and carrying it all day long is something I can't do at this time of my life, and I know people do it all the time.
mpmarty
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Cocked and locked single action is what I've done for over forty years, I'm not likely to change now. I swipe my thumb down the left rear of the slide on every pistol I draw, if it's the SA XD45, no problem, one of my 1911s, the safety is off like I want it, same with my PT145 as it is a single action until it hits a bad primer when it reverts to double action. The glock supposedly has three safeties but what happens if a retention snap gets into the front of the trigger guard as you reholster? You shoot yourself, that's what! No thank you Mr. Gaston. At least with the XD45 if you aren't mashing in on the grip safety as you reholster you don't shoot yourself.
At least with the XD45 if you aren't mashing in on the grip safety as you reholster you don't shoot yourself.Lonestar49
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Yes and No
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For any DA/SA gun, no safety, "decocker-only" IMHO is best..
With, in my case, SAO (both being 1911's) yes, as the CCW of them being cocked and locked, having not only the palm-grip safety, but the "thumb slide-lock safety" is key IMHO, as "both" need to be deactivated in order for the gun to fire, and the frame-mounted thumb s-safety is easily activated, quickly, to off, or on, without sacrificing a good/proper 2-hand grip..
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For any DA/SA gun, no safety, "decocker-only" IMHO is best..
With, in my case, SAO (both being 1911's) yes, as the CCW of them being cocked and locked, having not only the palm-grip safety, but the "thumb slide-lock safety" is key IMHO, as "both" need to be deactivated in order for the gun to fire, and the frame-mounted thumb s-safety is easily activated, quickly, to off, or on, without sacrificing a good/proper 2-hand grip..
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