Sawing off a shot gun?

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This was an idea I had because of the cheap-ness, the fun of it, and the various loads made for shot guns.

If there any problem with using exotic shot gun loads in a cut down gun?

Cheap is less than $100. I would prefer to find some thing for like $50. As far as sights go I could braze or silver solder one on if I realy want one. Right now I'm thinking I don't realy care if there is on on the front or not.

I saw a shot gun along time ago that was an AOW and only held 3 rounds but as I remember it was expensive :(
 
Well that was my original ideal length yes. What exactly makes that legal and me sawing off the stock and barrels of a dubble to the same size isnt?
 
Ahh. I see that I would have to go threw the same paper work for a full auto. Is the tax stamp the same price?

Also is it true that a slug dose about as much damage at close range as a .50?
 
What exactly makes that legal and me sawing off the stock and barrels of a dubble to the same size isnt?
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Because it was manufactured that way. You would have to make one from scratch. Not take one that's already built and modified it.
 
Well not super weird, though rather complex. If it left the factory as a shotgun and you make it shorter than 18" bbl, 26" overall, it's a SBS. Ditto rifle, but 16" instead of 18".

If it leaves the factory without a buttstock, it's not a shotgun by law, and thus can become an AOW as long as no buttstock is ever attached. The only reason this is good is that the AOW tax is $5, whereas the SBS/SBR is $200. Not such a big deal anymore, though.
 
Ok so if I buy a shot gun with a pistol grip from the factory it can be made to a shorter length than 26 OAL? And of corse pay the $5 tax?

Also dose the fact it has a front forgrip make any difference?
 
AOWs are TRANSFERRED with a $5 tax. To make them is still $200. I'd just go the SBS route, then if you'd like a stock you can attach one in the future - with the AOW that's not allowed.



This is the important part.... before doing anything to the shotgun, you need to pay the tax and get the stamp (the receipt of payment). If you do anything that needs that tax before paying, you're up for a trip to Federal prison.
 
Sawn-off shotgun

I ran a shotgun from 30" down to 18.25" barrel length in approx. 2" steps.
I definitely should have left it at 22" Whether hunting or self-defence
hearing is one of you best defense weapons: those super short weapons
will leave you deaf. And blinded by muzzleflash if you have to fire at night.
My current shotguns have barrel lengths of 18.25, 20, 24, 28 and 30 inches.
 
How far past the ammo tube (for a lack of a better turm) is the actual barrel at 18 and 1/2?
 
How far past the ammo tube (for a lack of a better turm) is the actual barrel at 18 and 1/2?

Depends on the gun

Left to right
Old Savge 69 E
Wincgester 1300
Norinco clone of Winchester 97
Remingto 870 with extended magazine

All are 18"
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I had a similar thought . . .

I had thought that the spread on a shorter barreled 12 gauge with 00 buck would be effective at close range. Then I thought, why stop at 12 gauge?

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That's a H&R Pardner Turkey 10 gauge cut down from 24" to ~18-20". Hard for me to tell, looks like there's a choke in the picture and I don't know how they are measuring the barrel. Overall length of the shotgun would be 34", so legal on both counts. That's double the number of 00 buck pellets, in a 18" barrel with no choke. I have no idea of it's effectiveness or lack thereof. But I thought the idea was interesting. You could probably find a Pardner 10 gauge pretty cheap. No idea about the recoil, blast, or flash though.

If you just want to see if it can be done, go for broke.

jmm
 
That Remingto 870 looks good. Any chance you got a full pic of it and what price do those run?

Also how many rounds dose that hold? and was there any thing special paper work for the extended ammo tube?
 
I buy almost all my guns used, but usually either unfired or like neww.

This one was around $250 I think, I traded some black powder guns for it.

Nothing special about the extended tube in Fla, your state my be different

I don't have a pic right now but someone here has one of their's.

I believe the round count is 8
 
$250-$300, 8, no.


I know, after laws regarding barrel length you'd really think there would be nonsensical laws regarding magazine capacity, too. I'm glad there isn't.
 
So wate could I make the ammo tube match the barrel length of a 22" barrel and have it still legal?
 
LOL thats nuts that I can buy a 10 + 1 shotgun but cant take a dubble and saw it off. Oh well what u going to do.

Humm I'm going to have to start hunting around for a cheap gun.
 
LOL thats nuts that I can buy a 10 + 1 shotgun but cant take a dubble and saw it off.
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A sawed of double would be so much more deadly than a 10 round pumpgun.:rolleyes:

But check your state laws to make sure you're legal.

How short do you want your double to be an 18 inch SxS is shorter than an 18 inch pump or auto
 
Basicly as short as I can legaly have it and not have the feds ask every 5 min to messure the thing :D
 
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