Say NO to "Gun Snobs"

[Javelin]

I buy what I like and offer my advice to anyone that asks.

 

[wyocarp]

some drive a Yugo

I don't know why anyone would drive a Yugo. Certainly not a gun owner.

 

[Duke of Doubt]

The Yugo was a mildly updated FIAT Strada. Perfectly good automobile, provided the owner maintained it the way that 1960s owners would maintain a FIAT Strada. They did not. So they fell apart.

If you baby a POS, it will outlast a lot of good iron.

 

[wyocarp]

If you baby a POS, it will outlast a lot of good iron.

What self-respecting man would do that?

 

[mljdeckard]

The difference between a gun and a Yugo? I haven't yet met a gun that was made out of compressed rust.

 

[homers]

Reminds me of when I was at the range one day with my son shooting clays. I had my Winchester 1200 pump and the guy next to us has a pretty nice auto and o/u. The guy next to us is showing a new shooting how to shoot. He keeps mentioning the difference in the guns between the two of us. At first, I thought he was explaining the difference between a pump and auto shotgun. But no, he keeps stating how "good" his guns are and how crap my gun was and that the new guy should only buy guns like his and not like mine. So now he has my attention a bit and I monitor how he's doing. He's hitting maybe 1 out of 5 shots and getting pissed when he misses. Meanwhile, my son and I are hitting a good 4 out of 5 and having fun. After a while, the new shooter takes notice and starts asking his buddy how he can shoot like we do. The look on the gun snobs face was priceless.

 

[ezenbrowntown]

As a new member on here, it's not too difficult to "read between the lines" so to speak. The folks on here that have gotten my attention are the ones who speak out of experience and/or discuss things backed up with some evidence.

That's the great thing about a forum, is you get multiple views from multiple sources. Any bias without any backup is easily sifted through, possibly with a set of rolled eyes.

 

[Dimis]

just remember folks my original post wasnt about giving advice on a bad product more so about the way its delivered i would be very happy to recieve honest advice about an inferior product and potentialy save me a bank load of money but most are not just attacking a firearm ive seen outright judgment on the person asking the questions
i will admit as stated in an earlier post that THR is better than most forums but really we should be standing together trying to help those that dont know and admitting when we dont have an answer rather than having an "im better than you attitude" such as when we say that my gun is better than your gun or even answering a noobie question even if its the millionth time its asked there will always be new gun owners that dont know anything (myself included) that when asking dont need the 500 posts of "your too stupid to do a search?" sometimes the search engine on 99% of these forums SUCK just answer the question id rather see 10000000 posts asking the same question and getting an answer than people copping an attitude and turning a new gun enthusiest away with no more knowledge than when he showed up
also i visit alot of forums where anything not helpful gets deleted or the poster gets banned (or at minimum the poster gets ripped into by everyone else)
the bashing only leads to alot of missinformation makeing more gun owners even less informed than they are already and telling someone the truth to help them (even if the truth is bad news) is completely different than being malicious about getting your points accross i guess my point is be helpfull or get out of the way

 

[Dimis]

also what spurred this on was the fact that yes i bought something alot of people told me i shouldnt i bought a 3 inch chambered judge
before i did this i searched THIS forum and found alot of posts of taurus bashers saying that you shouldnt get a taurus because smith makes everything better thats pretty much the commonality here that no matter what you want from taurus your wasting your money because smith and colt are the only ones on the planet short of a 100% hand crafted revolver that acctualy are worth there salt on that i have to call BULLSH*T as for the comments of get a thick skin yea i got a thick skin and im not bitching about your comments im merley suggesting that the pompous ones weve heard before a million times stop kind of like the S&W lock opinion on a bigger scale for the most part we already know the general opinions so keep the same old same old off the boards because its wasting space
as for the comment of me having only 60+ posts yea im a noob to the forum but i read alot more here than post and for the most part ill admit that im new to shooting and firearms in general but i plan on learning as much as i can and if not for the hundreds of you out there responding to my beginner questions id never get a chance to take a step forward so thanks for all the help

oh and as for the negative opinions
i still ended up buying the judge so in the end your bashing was waisted print

 

[Gord]

so keep the same old same old off the boards because its wasting space

So are "hay wuts the best gun evar" or "wuts better mossberg or remington" threads. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

so in the end your bashing was waisted print

Just because you didn't take advice doesn't necessarily mean that the advice was bad. I'm not commenting on the Judge here - just making a general observation.

 

[RugerSAFan]

I found that I only read part of Dimis's post since he failed the common courtesy of utilizing punctuation and capital letters. If he is unwilling to make the effort to make his posts readable, I'm unwilling to make the effort to read them.

In regards to being a gun snob, I am at the point where I may upgrade a couple of my handguns. I have a Keltec P3AT; I wouldn't mind upgrading to a Seecamp. I do not find the Keltec enjoyable to shoot at all.

 

[MCgunner]

Don't have a Glock, don't have a Hi Point (ugly, sorry ), but I have a Kel Tec. Everyone hates Kel Tec. I have 3 Taurus revolvers. They're quite hated by the snobs. I have 3 Rossis, oddly less hated than Taurus. I don't have a Smith with a lock, clean on that one.

Hell, there are people that dis RUGERS! RUGERS, of all things! I own 7 Rugers. In particular, people seem to hate the P guns, the autos. The only one they don't seem to dislike is the one Ruger doesn't make anymore, the Six series. Oh, Blackhawks and Vaqs are accepted. I think that's because single action revolver nuts are less snooty. The Old Army is oft quoted as the best there is or ever will be in cap and ball. So I guess I own one snob gun, not that black powder guys are snooty either, just don't seem to be with black powder. Hell, you can own the cheapest CVA and they won't put it down, like my Remington .31 CVA. When I get sick of snobs, I go chat in the black powder forum.

 

[Duke of Doubt]

I diss Rugers. But I freely admit it's mostly a political thing. Mostly. I really do think that Colt and Smith made/make a better revolver, and a dozen firms made/make a better autoloader. Beretta, for example. I don't avoid Rugers because I think they are no good. I avoid them because I find them distasteful and there are better guns out there.

I used to have a couple Tauri, and they do look and handle just like a Smith for the most part. But there are differences, and quality can be somewhat spotty. I don't hate them at all, but I've traded away the Boys from Brazil. Only Colt and Smith revolvers are permitted in my snobby stable now. There really is a difference, though you may need to handle and shoot, or even disassemble them to appreciate it.

 

[Logos]

What's more annoying than a gun snob?

The guy that buys a crap gun like the "Judge" and then attacks everybody else for telling him the truth about it.

I say......keep them happy, folks.......LIE TO THEM.

If he had a girl friend as ugly as the "Judge" and he was bragging about how beautiful she was--would you tell him she looks like an English Bulldog?

NO!

So just lie to them.

Like this....

"Oh, a "JUDGE." "Hey! Wow! That's SOME gun!"

See, it ain't so difficult.

 

[Duke of Doubt]

Well, like the ugly girlfriend I'd find some honest things to compliment. It's a rare gun, and a rare woman with no virtues (and no, simply being cheap is not a virtue in a GUN).

 

[Jaybird78]

Yes lets all be PC all the time. Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Hell, I've been blasted for bad spelling and grammar. Did I go cry? No, because I'm not a sissy. If you can't stand the heat then get out of the fire. There should be a disclaimer on the front page that these posts and replies are all OPINIONS.

Pepsi vs. Coke
Ford vs. Chevy
Ruger vs. Glock

Everyone needs to get over themselves and realize that you can't please everyone. Try to be civil if you can. Feelings will always be hurt.

It wasn't on this forum I believe but on "the firing line" that I actually put a guy on my ignore list because I couldn't stand him anymore. He had bad tact, and bad information in my OPINION. Did I cry to the admins? NO, I just personally banned his posts from my eyesight and guess what. I"M OK WITH THAT

P.S. Glocks still suck and I've never even fired one.

 

[MCgunner]

I don't avoid Rugers because I think they are no good. I avoid them because I find them distasteful and there are better guns out there.

It'll be time to quit shooting when I find accuracy, reliability, value, and some of the most rugged handguns on the market "distasteful". Know what's distasteful? A hole in the side of the frame. Were we talking about political correctness?

 

[MCgunner]

Well, guess it's time to go check in with the BP guys now.

 

[MCgunner]

Okay, swords sheathed. Let's all go here and be a gun snob. This one is deserving....ROFLMAO!

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=423339

 

[Duke of Doubt]

MCgunner: "Know what's distasteful? A hole in the side of the frame. Were we talking about political correctness?"

Oh, I quite agree. My NEWEST Smith is a 29-3.

 

[MCgunner]

I had a ragged out M1917 I finally sold. I had a M19, wasn't all THAT accurate with .38, though better than my Security Six, but I sold it. I wound up with a very accurate Taurus 66, very nice trigger, too, for a medium frame 4" .357. I have a M10 now, early 60s vintage. I cracked the forcing cone on the pencil barrel and found a heavy barrel in a shotgun news for 50 bucks and had it installed. It balances better for me now, anyway. I never was in love with that pencil barrel. That one was an inheritance, so it goes no where even though it's just an old M10, nothing special, 4" square butt. If it was a round butt, I'd get a 2" barrel for it and might use it more. But, I have a snub, Taurus 85SSUL, that I carry. Superb little carry .38.

I haven't bought a Smith in quite a while. The lock has me put off and the price of the no lock ones keeps going stupid high due to demand from those who feel like me. I'm simply not going to give 400 bucks for a loose K frame. My Taurus 66 was like new, early 90s model 6 shot, tight, perfect timing, beautifully smooth trigger that's just as good as my M10, $197 at a gun show. It's 1" at 25 yards accurate with wadcutters and 140 grain Speer magnums and 1.5" accurate with a cast, gas checked 158 SWC over 14.5 grains of 2400. Best shootin' medium frame gun I've yet owned for less than 200 bucks.

I'll sell, trade, this and that guns I don't care for too much for ones I think I might want. In over 30 years, I've pretty well settled on the ones I like. I'm really not too into autos. I've been there, done that, gave 1911s up for lint. I prefer DAs or DAOs. My P90 is accurate to the max, reliable, decent trigger. It's my favorite big auto. I carry a Kel Tec P11, like that one a lot, too. So, I'm used to being bashed by the snobs for my choices, but they're my choices and they have proven themselves excellent to my standards. I'm not so worried about looks or such as I am simple performance. The gun must be accurate and reliable most of all and a rugged design doesn't hurt. Trash the Taurus if you will, but I bet the forcing cone will never crack. It's a round forcing cone, tougher than a K frame design. Having cracked a K frame forcing cone, I kinda like that. L frames are cool, GP100s are strong, but a K frame is the right weight for my hip. I really haven't explored the heavier options.

I might hold my nose and ignore the hole for a M60 Magnum 5" with adjustable sights. I'd like to play with one of those. It strikes me as perhaps a great little trail/hiking gun, lighter than a K frame. I sorta like the 642, also, though I never bought one. There are Smiths I like, but I don't limit myself to one brand, not at all.

 

[Dimis]

WOW talk about people missing the point completely im not asking for PC hell im not even asking for you to lie i was mearly suggesting that you try conveying your points without just acting like an ass its more of a common curtousy thing than being PC if any of you knew me outside of this chat board you would know im probably the least PC m*therf*cker on the planet i was just trying to bring up the point that its waisted text to bash the **** out of someone over something YOU really have no effect on in the first place i have read thousands of threads on here and multiple other boards where someone asks about a firearm and gets 3 answers that are curtious the other 995 responces are from idiots that have to chime in with there 2 cents about "i wouldnt buy a gun with a lock" or "taurus is complete junk" it gets tiring loading page after page looking for some reliable INFORMED knowledge about a product and all you end up reading is i hate them you should too well unfortunatly some of us will not listen to that crap and want the ACTUAL PROS AND CONS (see what i did there? trust me that bold print is important) as for the ones that wanna "lie to me" go ahead be sarcastic it really just shows that you cant find a good reason to bash what i want or like you have no actual proof of what is junk and what isnt because your too lazy to respond with anything more than what the rest of the sheep before you said

As for Logos comment about whats worse well ill go one better someone who cant understand simple english its not about the "crap" judge (wich turned out to be a descent firearm after all) its more about the *******s that cant help but bash it because they own a 1200 firearm im fine if you own a full out custom 1911 thats friggin sweet but if someoen showed me a firearm that i didnt like im not going to tell them how idiotic they are for waisting there money try doing that sh*t at the range one day just go around and tell everyone there i bet youll change your mind in person i know 99% of the crap on here is bravado that you wouldnt back up in the real face to face world hell i dare any of you to go to compton and tell a gang banger his glock is crap (hope that expencive 1911 is at hand at that point and i really hope theres less than 7 of em)not brave enough to do that right? then why take this element of im better than you to a board where people look for information not assanine comments about how you can piss a little further than the last guy

as for the punctuation and grammer (hell the spelling) sorry for your luck and nice cheap shot
see told ya i aint PC lol

 

[Duke of Doubt]

Well, for the most part these Boards are about guns, not about dealing with Compton characters. We like to debate and discuss the relative merits of guns, any and all of which are potentially useful or dangerous to friend or foe. Emphasis on relative merits. It's a hobby, hence the hobby horses.

Whinney.

 

[conw]

What if the girlfriend looked like this?

 

[MCgunner]

What if the girlfriend looked like this?

Depends. If she's rich, marry her. No pre-nups, though.