Seems the folks in upstate NY are armed

[oneounceload]

Saw this article about the prison break, but this is focused on the town people and what they are doing:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...aces-a-manhunt-for-escaped-killers/ar-BBl0vLr

Guns are a part of life in the North Country, the thickly wooded tracts at the uppermost edge of New York State. There are hunting rifles but, here in the shadow of the state’s largest maximum-security prison, they keep pistols and revolvers, too, most often unloaded — just in case.

At Vann’s Gun Shop & Reloads in nearby Plattsburgh, one of the owners, Mary Vann, said she had not seen a run on ammunitions, nor sold any more than usual of her top seller, a .40-caliber Smith & Wesson pistol, since the escape. There was no need: “Everybody is pretty well armed up here to begin with,” she said. “We are prepared up here for almost anything.”

Good for them...............

 

[sequins]

And to think these folks are "new yorkers" haha

 

[subdude]

The ones I know up there don't consider themselves "New Yorkers". That's the city folk.

 

[oneounceload]

Absolutely! I grew up in "The City", but loved every summer trip upstate. At least these folks seem to be able to be prepared for something like this, which seems to go against many posters who scream that NY is devoid of (legal) gun owners.

It really is a shame that two of the prettiest states, NY and CA, have gone they way they politically in the last few decades.

 

[cslinger]

New York and New York City might as well be two different states. Same with Chicago and Illinois.

 

[shotgunjoel]

We should be more like the Europeans and let cities be their own administrative districts. That's what the Germans and Russians do. That way we don't have "Upstate" New Yorkers, "Downstate" Illinoisians or non-Denver/Boulder Coloradans being limited by their adjacent cities.

 

[steelbird]

Most people who are not from New York state or the nearby region ( the northeast ) don't really disassociate the city from the state. They often don't know that the state has rural areas that vote red, and are "full stop" ( as Vince Vaughn puts it ) supporters of 2A rights. Kind of like the way people who are not from Florida think that it's just Miami, Disneyworld, and the Daytona 500.

 

[oneounceload]

Absolutely. Unfortunately, those blue islands in seas of red seem to dominate the political climate. It would be nice to expand the number of states and redraw boundaries along those lines. Perhaps then folks in rural areas of the NE states might be able to enjoy more 2A freedom - and be better prepared for something like this event (or worse).

Hopefully, none of those folks will have to use their guns to protect themselves and their families from these two murderers.

 

[wojownik]

The ones I know up there don't consider themselves "New Yorkers". That's the city folk.

The folks I know up there don't consider NYC to be "New York." Two separate New Yorks, unfortunately saddled with the same state govt.

 

[Maggie]

Yesterday on Andrea Mitchell on Msnbc she was talking to a local resident who was talking about how he has showed his wife and children how to use his firearms just in case. You could have heard a pen drop for about 2 seconds while she regained her wits and made sure to say but of coarse you are staying inside and waiting on the authorities to take action>>>>>>>HAHA. Today they made up for it on the show after her's with a guy named Thomas who had some guy on and he mentioned the people being armed and that guy said Well they have the right to do so but what if these bad guy jumped one of them and got a firearm that way or the situation it puts all these policemen in looking for the bad guys with all these armed people around. HAHA..

 

[danez71]

We should be more like the Europeans and let cities be their own administrative districts. That's what the Germans and Russians do. That way we don't have "Upstate" New Yorkers, "Downstate" Illinoisians or non-Denver/Boulder Coloradans being limited by their adjacent cities.

No no no.

Selling out someone else's freedom so you/we can enjoy it is just wrong and makes the rest of us weaker.

And we should never want to be more like Europe, Rissua, or Germany. Never... ever.

 

[X-Rap]

And we should never want to be more like Europe, Rissua, or Germany. Never... ever.

Today with the help of strange bedfellows in Congress we may well have avoided a big step in that direction.

 

[LemmyCaution]

We should be more like the Europeans and let cities be their own administrative districts. That's what the Germans and Russians do. That way we don't have "Upstate" New Yorkers, "Downstate" Illinoisians or non-Denver/Boulder Coloradans being limited by their adjacent cities.

Careful what one wishes for. Without the taxes paid to the state's general fund by the residents of NYC, upstate New York's financial picture becomes very bleak. Upstaters complain about their high taxes, but if they had to fund their infrastructure and schools without NYC's largesse, they'd be in a world of hurt.

 

[X-Rap]

USNY could have an economy similar to North Dakota and Texas if they would allow Fracking and embrace the extraction industries.
I myself wouldn't hesitate to transplant to NYS if they had decent taxes, employment, and freedom. Those three things along with the recreation opportunities that Upstate present.are all any state needs to become very desirable to people looking to relocate.

 

[Garrobo]

Too many

people make the mistake of mixing up NY state with NYC. There is a world of difference. Upstate and the cities in the Lower Tier pay for the left-wing, liberal, communistic, welfare-infested sewer called NYC with their state and local property taxes. That's all there is to it. Most up-staters would like to see NYC and Long Island whacked off and shoved out to sea. I would include NJ, MD, eastern PA, RI, Conn, DC and Mass along with that.

 

[GJSchulze]

most often unloaded

I doubt they're unloaded. That would be stupid and upstaters are not like the libs in NYC, many of who have no idea what life is like outside of the city.

 

[likesguns]

I live in upstate NY(near Albany) and I will speak for myself and allot of people here that I know,we are well armed and we think the city is a turd we wish we could flush into the ocean!

 

[Jeff White]

And to think these folks are "new yorkers" haha

They get painted with the same broad brush those of us in Illinois do. Chicago gets all of the press and corruption here and everyone who doesn't live in the rest of the state thinks the entire state is that way. Upstate New York is just like Southern Illinois. Most of the people there hope that NYC is covered by floods or floats away.

The divide in this country is not blue state/state it's urban/rural.

 

[Jim K]

After the escapees are captured, will Gov. Cuomo order all those police to invade homes and seize those guns? After all, those people might have hurt one of the nice convicts.

Jim

 

[OldMac]

I drove from buffalo to Vermont last weekend and was impressed by the number of American flags on houses, mailboxes, cars and telephone poles. We also noticed many of those same properties had homemade signs that had "NY SAFE" circled and struck through. It was clear the upper part of the state is very patriotic and doesn't appear to agree with the way some are attempting to keep them safe. We didn't realize until we saw the news in VT that we passed right through NY's free range murderer territory on the day of their escape. It was good to see the locals aren't keeping quiet. At one point, we passed some guys waving a huge flag next to the road with a sign that said wave if you are are a patriot. We did. However,I couldn't tell if they owned any deer rifles. From Pennsylvania to Vermont we lost count of the number of deer left to rot on the road. NY should allow 30 round mags for deer season in the name motorist safety.

 

[oneounceload]

The divide in this country is not blue state/state it's urban/rural.

Very true, but in most cases it is urban (blue) versus rural (red)................unfortunately, urban folks on entitlements along with large crowds of folks wearing rose colored glasses dictate everything to everyone else.

I will not go into my thoughts on that - that is a topic most likely not suited for here...

 

[Lord Teapot]

No no no.

Selling out someone else's freedom so you/we can enjoy it is just wrong and makes the rest of us weaker.

And we should never want to be more like Europe, Rissua, or Germany. Never... ever.

the way i see it if city people want to vote for stalinist government, let them. we're not selling out their freedom, they're actively de-freeing themselves by exercising their freedom to vote.

 

[scaatylobo]

NYS v/s NYC

I have heard the same question over and over again.

And it usually is ,why don't people from NY like or have guns.

Well its ONLY new York CITY that is so unarmed [ about 1 / 50 th of the state ].

The rest of the state [ Northern & Western ] are hunting,shooting AND fishing people for the most part.

Sadly the tail wags the dog,in that the city and Albany control the politics of this state.

And they are liberal to a fault.

 

[Liquidring]

I've traveled a good bit in up state NY and the north east doing work in paper mills and other plants, get out of the large cities, away from the wackos, and the people are down home and good as gold. I'll NEVER forget an older man & his wife the night i got lost looking for the little town I was going to, all I did was knock on thier front door and ask for directions, wound up eating home made bisquits, drinking coffee, and learning a lot that what I had been told was dead WRONG. One town in Vermont, I had the PoPo, not just give directions, but I followed him for over 1 hour to where I was going, come to find out, his son was the maint manager I was going to see.
Good people and their guns are not unloaded, but don't tell the govenor or that wacko NYC mayor, they'd crap their shorts.

 

[rcmodel]

Even people in New York City are more armed then you might think.

I visited a family while I was going through AIT in Fort Dix NJ in 1964.

I went to a Army buddy's home in NYC (Queens I think?) on a weekend pass.

While there his father pulled on the fireplace mantel, it opened, and presented a very nice 1903 Springfield rifle, and a 1911a1 pistol.
In fitted cradles.

The man told me he would be in prison if found out.

But damned if the city government was going to tell him he couldn't keep the guns he fought WWII with.

Got to wonder how many more fireplace mantels there are like that in NYC??

rc