Selling reloads

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Anyone one nthis form answer the question. I have a gunsmith and reloader license and I think somewhere in the past it was quoted " you must have anFFL class one" to sell reloaded ammo. I can't swear to that. I would like an opinion on trhis if anyone can answer. Thanks.
 
I would Google licenses necessary to reload and sell ammunition. Federal and State may be needed.
 
FFL Type 6 is required for manufacturing ammunition -

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=449755

and, according to this thread, this includes manufacturing bullets (even though the common understanding is that a bullet is only a component used in making ammunition.)

According to Wikipedia, Classes aren't the same thing as Types -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_License

A Special Occupational Tax (SOT) Class 1 is an importer of NFA firearms and requires an Importer FFL, either Type 8 or 11.

Based on this limited research, you need a Type 6 FFL to manufacture and sell ammunition.

But that is only the tip of the iceberg. You also need a business license, insurance, and a location which allows that business to be performed. Zoning restrictions usually prevent this type of thing out of one's residence.

I'm sure someone with a lot more experience will join in, but this is a start...
 
SO how is reloading for YOURSELF illegal??:scrutiny: ITAR, FFL 06 because you could export cast/manufacture bullets or finished ammo etc. and liability insurance is required. But for personal consumption there is no Federal requirement that makes this illegal that I have found with my extensive research. If so please explain where you found this. Local regulations may be possible in a non free area but I call you on the blanket statement.
 
I was told by the person that sent me the papers to fill out that I'd need the license if I was going to manufacture and SELL for a profit. No, I didn't fill the papers out.
 
Law states that no one, no one is allowed to manufacture ammo. For personal use or resell. Must have FFL 06 to manufacture for yourself or others. Meaning you pay taxes when you buy ammo off the shelf. Yes you pay taxes on components on the shelf, but no taxes online.

For the people that argue that, I have friends that work for several agencies in DC.

People exceed posted speed limit, they violate their PO's, and do other illegal things. So manufacturing your own ammo is no big deal, but just remember to buy your first component or tools, under law you must have a 06.
 
Law states that no one, no one is allowed to manufacture ammo. For personal use or resell. Must have FFL 06 to manufacture for yourself or others. Meaning you pay taxes when you buy ammo off the shelf. Yes you pay taxes on components on the shelf, but no taxes online.

For the people that argue that, I have friends that work for several agencies in DC.

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45lcshooter,
I and many others here want proof of what you claim is the law. Stating, "friends in DC" say so is not good enough.

chuck
 
As a rebuttal to 45lcshooter's post, I found this on an FAQ page on the BATFE website:

Q: Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?

Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit.

No, if the person reloads only for personal use.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a) (i) and 923(a), 27 CFR 478.41]
 
Law states that no one, no one is allowed to manufacture ammo. For personal use or resell. Must have FFL 06 to manufacture for yourself or others. Meaning you pay taxes when you buy ammo off the shelf. Yes you pay taxes on components on the shelf, but no taxes online.

For the people that argue that, I have friends that work for several agencies in DC.

People exceed posted speed limit, they violate their PO's, and do other illegal things. So manufacturing your own ammo is no big deal, but just remember to buy your first component or tools, under law you must have a 06.

Horse Puckey. Lets see that law.
 
Yeah, I'm gonna have to run up the flag on that one....if that were true, we'd have to provide a copy of our "license" every time we bought or ordered ANYTHING related to reloading, from ANYWHERE.

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Law states that no one, no one is allowed to manufacture ammo. For personal use or resell. Must have FFL 06 to manufacture for yourself or others. Meaning you pay taxes when you buy ammo off the shelf. Yes you pay taxes on components on the shelf, but no taxes online.

For the people that argue that, I have friends that work for several agencies in DC.

People exceed posted speed limit, they violate their PO's, and do other illegal things. So manufacturing your own ammo is no big deal, but just remember to buy your first component or tools, under law you must have a 06.
It's know-it-all's like you who also have know-it-all friends who spread inaccurate information and false rumors on the Internet. Check your facts before you spread lies.

As a rebuttal to 45lcshooter's post, I found this on an FAQ page on the BATFE website:
Q: Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?

Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit.

No, if the person reloads only for personal use.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a) (i) and 923(a), 27 CFR 478.41]
That post on the other hand provides accurate information backed up by a link. I would have quoted that post even if that information would have gone against what I thought to be true because facts are facts.
 
It`s like MoonShine

For consumption is OK , but passing it on & making money without paying taxes they come get ya & take all the money away !!
 
It`s like MoonShine

For consumption is OK , but passing it on & making money without paying taxes they come get ya & take all the money away !!

Uh... no. It's not like Moonshine at all. Making moonshine for personal consumption is illegal. In fact, distilling any drinkable alcohol without paying excise taxes (and jumping through a whole bunch of other hoops) is 100% NOT legal. It doesn't matter if you sell the alcohol, give it away, drink it yourself, or pour it down the drain. Private operation of a still that separates alcohol from a mixture is not legal.

Let me say it one more time. Making alcohol for personal consumption is NOT legal.

I pasted a quote from the an Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau FAQ below. Or, you can look it up for your self in the FAQ here if you wish. Or, you can read as much about it as you can stand in CFR Part 19.

S7: May I produce beer, wine or spirits for my personal or family use without paying Federal excise tax and filing Federal paperwork?

Beer
{legal, with some restrictions - content deleted for clarity}

Wine
{legal, with some restrictions - content deleted for clarity}

Spirits

You may not produce spirits for beverage purposes without paying taxes and without prior approval of paperwork to operate a distilled spirits plant. [See 26 U.S.C. 5601 & 5602 for some of the criminal penalties.] There are numerous requirements that must be met that also make it impractical to produce spirits for personal or beverage use. Some of these requirements are paying special tax, filing an extensive application, filing a bond, providing adequate equipment to measure spirits, providing suitable tanks and pipelines, providing a separate building (other than a dwelling) and maintaining detailed records, and filing reports. All of these requirements are listed in 27 CFR Part 19.
Spirits may be produced for non-beverage purposes for fuel use only without payment of tax, but you also must file an application, receive TTB's approval, and follow requirements, such as construction, use, records and reports.
 
Uh... no. It's not like Moonshine at all. Making moonshine for personal consumption is illegal. In fact, distilling any drinkable alcohol without paying excise taxes (and jumping through a whole bunch of other hoops) is 100% NOT legal. It doesn't matter if you sell the alcohol, give it away, drink it yourself, or pour it down the drain. Private operation of a still that separates alcohol from a mixture is not legal.

Let me say it one more time. Making alcohol for personal consumption is NOT legal.

I pasted a quote from the an Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau FAQ below. Or, you can look it up for your self in the FAQ here if you wish. Or, you can read as much about it as you can stand in CFR Part 19.
actually depends on where you live. here in mo its A ok to make moonshine.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c300-399/3110000055.htm
 
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