There's been some speculation that the series could continue via direct to DVD movies. That's been a trend for years, but is starting to become more mainstream and accepted. So, instead of seeing a new Steven Seagal movie every other week, we might see a new Angel, Buffy, or Firefly once a year.
"Serenity"--a gun slinging libertarian western in space (SPOILERS)
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Sci-Fi also picked up Stargate SG-1 and have done a good job of keeping it going.
Joss Whedon is not ruling out additional films. The studio isn't saying. There is a persistent rumor that Sci-Fi tried to get rights to shoot more episodes of the TV series but couldn't come to agreement with Fox on the price. The situation is fluid.
As for "product placement," artifacts from Earth-that-was appear to be highly valued in the Firefly universe. This could easily be used for very smooth product placement purposes. As it was, the series was a kind of ongoing advertisement for a number of fairly obscure old guns that show up on the used market!
For a lot of non-SF people, "science fiction series" means Star Trek or something very similar; they even saw even Andromeda as a bit of a maverick. "Firefly" is not going to sit at all well with them.
As a long-time fan of SF of the sort found in books and magazines, Firefly was the best thing I had seen on TV since, well, ever; and Serenity is among the best SF films ever made. As far as sets and setting goes, both establish entirely new standards for dramatic productions -- and, finally, begin to come close to what's been available in print since Stanley Weinbaum, John W. Campbell and Robert A. Heinlein (among others) made the pulps start to grow up.
--Herself
Joss Whedon is not ruling out additional films. The studio isn't saying. There is a persistent rumor that Sci-Fi tried to get rights to shoot more episodes of the TV series but couldn't come to agreement with Fox on the price. The situation is fluid.
As for "product placement," artifacts from Earth-that-was appear to be highly valued in the Firefly universe. This could easily be used for very smooth product placement purposes. As it was, the series was a kind of ongoing advertisement for a number of fairly obscure old guns that show up on the used market!
For a lot of non-SF people, "science fiction series" means Star Trek or something very similar; they even saw even Andromeda as a bit of a maverick. "Firefly" is not going to sit at all well with them.
As a long-time fan of SF of the sort found in books and magazines, Firefly was the best thing I had seen on TV since, well, ever; and Serenity is among the best SF films ever made. As far as sets and setting goes, both establish entirely new standards for dramatic productions -- and, finally, begin to come close to what's been available in print since Stanley Weinbaum, John W. Campbell and Robert A. Heinlein (among others) made the pulps start to grow up.
--Herself
Igloodude
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Having seen the series via Netflix, I put the DVD at the top of my Christmas list, and so my wife and I watched it this evening (having avoided all spoiler info like the plague for the past three months).
It was worth the wait, and then some.
It was worth the wait, and then some.
Silver Bullet
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I never did figure that out.
IndianaDean
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It's River.
Silver Bullet
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It should be River, considering her prominence in the story, but doesn't look much like her to me.
I don't like that poster. Here are some other poster options:
http://www.moviegoods.com/movie_product.asp?master_movie_id=29102&mgaid=GoogleAdWords+serenity
I don't like that poster. Here are some other poster options:
http://www.moviegoods.com/movie_product.asp?master_movie_id=29102&mgaid=GoogleAdWords+serenity
Drizzt
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Kind of liked this one myself....
notice which 2 characters aren't shown, though?
notice which 2 characters aren't shown, though?
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Good point. I should have noticed that.
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Shown:
Inara, River, Jayne, Mal, Zoe
Not Shown:
Wash, Kaylee, Simon, Shepherd Book
Inara, River, Jayne, Mal, Zoe
Not Shown:
Wash, Kaylee, Simon, Shepherd Book
Strings
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I'd guess Kaylee and Simon were otherwise occupied during the group shot there. Something about a complaint about batteries?
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Am I the only ODB who noticed that Rivers, ahem, outline through the shirt doesn't quite match up with her legs?
IMHO, its that kind of ad that hurts Firefly/Serenity. It sends a message to viewers that conflicts with what the show actually IS, leading to dissappointment. I so wish Wheedon had control over how the trailers for Serenity were made, I can't imagine that he approved of what they actually ran.
IMHO, its that kind of ad that hurts Firefly/Serenity. It sends a message to viewers that conflicts with what the show actually IS, leading to dissappointment. I so wish Wheedon had control over how the trailers for Serenity were made, I can't imagine that he approved of what they actually ran.
Silver Bullet
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I think a better poster would show Serenity (the ship) against a black, starry sky, with the engine lit up and those glowing "fumes" being emitted from the engine.
It could symbolize the crew and their ship traversing the solar systems, a lone source of heat and light, alone against the cold 'Verse.
Or not.
It could symbolize the crew and their ship traversing the solar systems, a lone source of heat and light, alone against the cold 'Verse.
Or not.
Silver Bullet
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This is close:
http://shop.vendio.com/comicod/item/757992019/index.html
The third and fourth posters. I wish the ship were a little further back.
http://shop.vendio.com/comicod/item/757992019/index.html
The third and fourth posters. I wish the ship were a little further back.
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Strings
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jason, Spoon just took a look at it: since her degree is graphic design, she should have SOME clue...
She figures it was just back-lit oddly...
She figures it was just back-lit oddly...
in case it wasn't posted elsewhere in the thread...opening scene...
Teacher: Earth That Was could no longer sustain our numbers, we were so many. We found a new solar system, dozens of planets and hundreds of moons. Each one terra-formed, a process taking decades, to support human life, to be new earths. The Central Planets formed the lace. Ruled by an interplanetary parliament, the Alliance was a beacon of civilization. The savage outer planets were not so enlightened and refused Alliancelace control. The war was devastating, but the Alliance's victory over the Independents insured a safer universe. And now everyone can enjoy the comfort, and enlightenment of your civilization.
Student: Why were the independents even fighting us? Why wouldn’t they look to be more civilized?
Teacher: Its true that there are…dangers on the outer planets…so with so many social and medical advancements we can bring to the independents, why would they fight so hard against us?
Young River: We meddle.
Teacher: River?
Young River: People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
Teacher: Riiiver…we’re not telling people what to think! We’re just trying to show them how! *shoves metal probe into River’s forehead*
Teacher: Earth That Was could no longer sustain our numbers, we were so many. We found a new solar system, dozens of planets and hundreds of moons. Each one terra-formed, a process taking decades, to support human life, to be new earths. The Central Planets formed the lace. Ruled by an interplanetary parliament, the Alliance was a beacon of civilization. The savage outer planets were not so enlightened and refused Alliancelace control. The war was devastating, but the Alliance's victory over the Independents insured a safer universe. And now everyone can enjoy the comfort, and enlightenment of your civilization.
Student: Why were the independents even fighting us? Why wouldn’t they look to be more civilized?
Teacher: Its true that there are…dangers on the outer planets…so with so many social and medical advancements we can bring to the independents, why would they fight so hard against us?
Young River: We meddle.
Teacher: River?
Young River: People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
Teacher: Riiiver…we’re not telling people what to think! We’re just trying to show them how! *shoves metal probe into River’s forehead*
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SERENITY NO. 3 IN DVD SALES IN THE WEEK BEFORE CHRISTMAS!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/charts/home_video/first_alert.jsp
This is fantastic news. The foreign and domestic BO basically broke even with the 39 million production budget, so the future of the franchise will be made or lost on the highly lucrative market for DVD sales. The fact that little bitty Serenity trounced an array of high concept flics such as "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" and "Fantastic Four" for the critical sales week is amazing. It also beat DVD's that were pushed long and hard for Christmas in particular, such as "Madagascar" and "March of the Penguins." Just amazing.
Remember, it was DVD sales on the TV series that kept the film project going.
I just picked up the DVD today and Apart from the odd cover it's very well done. Tons of extras.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/charts/home_video/first_alert.jsp
This is fantastic news. The foreign and domestic BO basically broke even with the 39 million production budget, so the future of the franchise will be made or lost on the highly lucrative market for DVD sales. The fact that little bitty Serenity trounced an array of high concept flics such as "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" and "Fantastic Four" for the critical sales week is amazing. It also beat DVD's that were pushed long and hard for Christmas in particular, such as "Madagascar" and "March of the Penguins." Just amazing.
Remember, it was DVD sales on the TV series that kept the film project going.
I just picked up the DVD today and Apart from the odd cover it's very well done. Tons of extras.
Silver Bullet
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I'm not sure what all these lists really signify. Amazon shows Serenity #1 or #2, but Billboard didn't show it in their top ten.
Cosmoline
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Amazon is just its own on-line sales, which shows a lot of fans of Serenity are digitized and order on-line. Billboard's non-pay chart claims to date from the 31st of this month, but the number of weeks they show films like "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" being on the charts make it pretty clear it's from the middle of the month, before Serenity was out. Serenity was released on the 20th, so the key week isn't shown there. T Billboard site won't let you see the actual DVD sales ranks for last week without paying.
Cosmoline
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Tell that to the people who went to see it. The POS grossed 329,497 MILLION worldwide. Yes, beating it with a little-known and virtually unadvertised DVD release in the week before Christmas is a big deal.
I think what we're starting to see here is a shift between the increasingly teen/idiot-oriented box office and the DVD sales market. DVD sales once made up only a small part of the pie, but these days they're starting to rival box office on films geared for a more adult or at least conscious audience. Hollywood has been pulling its hair out trying to figure out why so many films aren't doing as well as hoped at the theaters, and the simple answer appears to be grownups just don't like going there anymore. Theaters tend to be noisy, overpriced and unpleasant experiences. Clusters of noisy teens can ruin a whole movie, and the day and age of ushers are long gone. Complain and they'll just laugh at you.
Ten years ago I *NEVER* bought a VHS tape. I just rented them. Now I've got two 40mm cannon ammo boxes full of collected DVD's. And I may see one or two films every other year at the theater. This decade I've seen the LOTR movies, Serenity, Hitchhiker's Guide and "Grizzly Man" on the big screen--that's about it. At two of the LOTR films I had to endure chattering teens and crying babes the whole time. The last one I waited for a very late showing late in the run when the theater was mostly empty.
I think what we're starting to see here is a shift between the increasingly teen/idiot-oriented box office and the DVD sales market. DVD sales once made up only a small part of the pie, but these days they're starting to rival box office on films geared for a more adult or at least conscious audience. Hollywood has been pulling its hair out trying to figure out why so many films aren't doing as well as hoped at the theaters, and the simple answer appears to be grownups just don't like going there anymore. Theaters tend to be noisy, overpriced and unpleasant experiences. Clusters of noisy teens can ruin a whole movie, and the day and age of ushers are long gone. Complain and they'll just laugh at you.
Ten years ago I *NEVER* bought a VHS tape. I just rented them. Now I've got two 40mm cannon ammo boxes full of collected DVD's. And I may see one or two films every other year at the theater. This decade I've seen the LOTR movies, Serenity, Hitchhiker's Guide and "Grizzly Man" on the big screen--that's about it. At two of the LOTR films I had to endure chattering teens and crying babes the whole time. The last one I waited for a very late showing late in the run when the theater was mostly empty.
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The folks at www.fireflyfans.net think the big dvd sales may just be the Firefly fans (like me) rushing out to get it as soon as it came out, then the sales will start dropping.
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The thing about the movie is that it has not stayed with me as the series did and still does. I expected it to, but no.
I have a lot more fond moments from the TV show that when I think of them I smile or sometimes even bust out laughing. Not so much with the movie.
I'll buy the DVD, but I'm not that into it anymore.
I have a lot more fond moments from the TV show that when I think of them I smile or sometimes even bust out laughing. Not so much with the movie.
I'll buy the DVD, but I'm not that into it anymore.
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