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Sorry, but whoever told you that has been reading too many comic books or playing too many arcade games . . .
Jeff
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Sorry, but whoever told you that has been reading too many comic books or playing too many arcade games . . .
Jeff
32winspl
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For me, it Guns 'n Earplugs at the range. I played in several bands many years ago, and was into music in a serious way, but about 1990 or so, "current" music started p-ing me off. Been an AM talk-redio kinda guy since then.
warwagon
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TonyB
When going through SWAT basic many moons ago, one of the instructors played that through the speakers in the underground range to start the day(we really didn't see the humor in it at that time, tough course), incidentally, that's where I got the nick name I use here.
32winspl, talk radio is just another sign of aging, believe me
, now if they had the Liddy show on at the range, maybe
When going through SWAT basic many moons ago, one of the instructors played that through the speakers in the underground range to start the day(we really didn't see the humor in it at that time, tough course), incidentally, that's where I got the nick name I use here.
32winspl, talk radio is just another sign of aging, believe me
, now if they had the Liddy show on at the range, maybe
Camjr
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Last year, I tried running the iPod earbuds up under my hearing protection while at the range, but came to the realization it probably wasn't the best idea for safety sake.
benEzra
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Exactly. I like music before shooting, but not while shooting, for precisely that reason.
jaholder1971
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Shooting to Rage against the machine????
These clowns are hardcore leftists and borderline Marxists who support terrorist groups!
These clowns are hardcore leftists and borderline Marxists who support terrorist groups!
shevrock
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I don't listen to music "on the range". mostly because i shoot in my backyard, and i don't have an mp3 player. I've get a really serious gun, so i just plink around. I do however want to record gunshot sounds, and put them together in a semi-combat like symphony.
Leif Runenritzer
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If one can listen to music while driving, why not while shooting?
sig2022shooter
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I've found pretty much any AC/DC goes great with the sound of gunfire.
neviander
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Yeah, it's a shame, isn't it. They have an awesome sound. It figures though, most really good artists are whacked out of their gourd in one way or another.
I don't often listen to mUsic while shooting, I tend to sing in my head in between shots when I'm shooting for score, as it calms me down, takes my mind off the shot. When I DO listen to music at the range, it's only when I'm in the pits. Now, back home, shooting in my backyard, that's a different story.
Restorer
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Are you nuts?
Music is powerful stuff. I lecture on the effects of music on the body and mind several times a month at substance abuse facilities. A fast song has as much punch as a cup of coffee, and occupies a huge chunk of your memory while you're listening. And no, you don't have to be actively concentrating on the music...the effect is visceral.
I love music, any genre as long as it's performed well. I've been a musician most of my life and have been in the music business. I've also been a shooter most of my life. I don't listen to music while I shoot. I need all of my brain paying attention around things that go boom. Knowing how much of your brain is occupied by music, are you sure you want to be entertained while you shoot?
Music is powerful stuff. I lecture on the effects of music on the body and mind several times a month at substance abuse facilities. A fast song has as much punch as a cup of coffee, and occupies a huge chunk of your memory while you're listening. And no, you don't have to be actively concentrating on the music...the effect is visceral.
I love music, any genre as long as it's performed well. I've been a musician most of my life and have been in the music business. I've also been a shooter most of my life. I don't listen to music while I shoot. I need all of my brain paying attention around things that go boom. Knowing how much of your brain is occupied by music, are you sure you want to be entertained while you shoot?
Fleetwood_Captain
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How about "Happiness is a Warm Gun" by The Beatles?
Or possibly something by .38 Special, or Guns n' Roses, or Velvet Revolver...
Oh hey, I know.
How about "Bikini Girls With Machine Guns" by The Cramps?
The list just goes on...
Or possibly something by .38 Special, or Guns n' Roses, or Velvet Revolver...
Oh hey, I know.
How about "Bikini Girls With Machine Guns" by The Cramps?
The list just goes on...
KiltedClaymore
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thats sick...bad BAD joke. but i give you props for listening to the "Rats"
PotatoJudge
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I listen to Sony Fonotopias, a closed system earbud with really comfortable silicone that is almost like wearing plugs and fits really well under muffs. They sound great to me, though I'm no audiophile. With those under Howard Leight L3s I hear a slight pop and feel the recoil, but that's about it. I have a couple of shooting playlists, one slower and the other a bit more energetic. I shoot on private property and usually alone, so I don't have to worry about anyone else. If there's good music going I tend to be more patient and wait for the good shots instead of rushing them.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-EX51...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1216007258&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/1010924-HOWAR...ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1216007287&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR-EX51...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1216007258&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/1010924-HOWAR...ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1216007287&sr=8-1
WayneConrad
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No. Not everything needs a soundtrack. Truth be told, very few things in life need a soundtrack. Movies, mostly. And most modern movies only need as overbearing a soundtrack as they have because the MTV generation is addicted to the constant racket and falls asleep without it.
Diamondback6
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Nothing during, but for several days before I'll put my "arsekicking mix" on auto-loop and continuous run. It includes:
*Soundtracks from war and action movies
*"Heavier" classical
*Basically, lots of metal and bass
In this role, bass is good, as there's a link between heavy-bass and aggression that might help you in a "combat" match. (Will Smith's a clueless idiot on most things, but Black Suits Comin' from the MIB II score seems to work very well as part of my "pump up" mix.)
Of course, then ya gotta have some mellowing "cooldown" music too...
*Soundtracks from war and action movies
*"Heavier" classical
*Basically, lots of metal and bass
In this role, bass is good, as there's a link between heavy-bass and aggression that might help you in a "combat" match. (Will Smith's a clueless idiot on most things, but Black Suits Comin' from the MIB II score seems to work very well as part of my "pump up" mix.)
Of course, then ya gotta have some mellowing "cooldown" music too...
jaholder1971
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When I shoot, KFTI's "Radio Ranch" 1070 AM out of Wichita is usually on in the truck. That station plays all classic Country, Western and Cowboy music all day and evening.
Western Swing in the Morning, Johnny Western from 10-3 and plenty of cowboy music on the weekends in afternoon.
Western Swing in the Morning, Johnny Western from 10-3 and plenty of cowboy music on the weekends in afternoon.
moojpg2
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i shoot at a private range, if i have the line to myself i might leave my windows down and blast whatever i have in the cd player, lately it's been disturbed or shinedown, but i'll promptly turn it off if someone else shows up
jaholder1971
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Disturbed is pretty appropriate. Wasn't "Sickness" part of the soundtrack to a Zombie movie?
FourNineFoxtrot
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I don't listen to music while shooting, but I wouldn't object to it, either, as long as range commands, etc., could still be heard. I mostly shoot on BLM land, not ranges. Like I said, I don't play music, but I could.
Music may take up a significant portion of your attention, as Restorer said, but I would think that's actually a point in favor of music-as-training aid. Not just external distraction, but the internal distraction. Operating a firearm and learning to either quell the internal monologue+external noise or have good, safe technique despite it, and maintaining accurate fire even with a bit of adrenaline amping you up from a song.
I imagine that if I had to use a gun in a life and death situation, there's a good chance that kind of a lot of stuff will be running through my mind: "What's going on?", "Where's he at?", "Can I shoot?", "Cover?", "Did I leave the oven on?", "I could really go for a scotch and a smoke", "Firefly was a great show." Who the hell knows.
My mind, and I suspect all minds, work in strange ways. In stressful (not really life or death) situations I've been in before, sometimes my mind wanders down some strange corridors. One that sticks in my mind was when an old man threatened me for trespassing on his land (I was 12 or so). Part of me was listening to him threaten to shoot me (gun wasn't with him). Part of me noticed that he was shaking, trembling kind of. Rage? Parkinson's? Just old? Did he live there alone? Did he have family? That's just the kind of odd turn my mind can take, even as another part of it was trying like hell to get me out of the situation.
I guess a lot of it depends on the person. If you're the kind of person who drowns out distractions with music, it can make you focus better. If you're the kind of person who focuses on the music, or for whom music+thoughts+physical activity clashes badly, maybe it's not such a great idea.
Music may take up a significant portion of your attention, as Restorer said, but I would think that's actually a point in favor of music-as-training aid. Not just external distraction, but the internal distraction. Operating a firearm and learning to either quell the internal monologue+external noise or have good, safe technique despite it, and maintaining accurate fire even with a bit of adrenaline amping you up from a song.
I imagine that if I had to use a gun in a life and death situation, there's a good chance that kind of a lot of stuff will be running through my mind: "What's going on?", "Where's he at?", "Can I shoot?", "Cover?", "Did I leave the oven on?", "I could really go for a scotch and a smoke", "Firefly was a great show." Who the hell knows.
My mind, and I suspect all minds, work in strange ways. In stressful (not really life or death) situations I've been in before, sometimes my mind wanders down some strange corridors. One that sticks in my mind was when an old man threatened me for trespassing on his land (I was 12 or so). Part of me was listening to him threaten to shoot me (gun wasn't with him). Part of me noticed that he was shaking, trembling kind of. Rage? Parkinson's? Just old? Did he live there alone? Did he have family? That's just the kind of odd turn my mind can take, even as another part of it was trying like hell to get me out of the situation.
I guess a lot of it depends on the person. If you're the kind of person who drowns out distractions with music, it can make you focus better. If you're the kind of person who focuses on the music, or for whom music+thoughts+physical activity clashes badly, maybe it's not such a great idea.
Restorer
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FourNineFoxtrot;
Music is indeed a great tool to aid learning, but it is situational. State dependent learning is a description of a condition in which physical or mental activity is tied to neurotransmitter and other body chemical levels. Music stimulates most of the body's pleasure receptors simultaneously at some level or other. It also dumps adrenaline and endorphins into the blood.
When that nervous system activity is present again it provides easier access to the memories associated with the prior event. In other words if you do all of your shooting training while listening to "Saturday Night Special" it is easier to recall earlier training and muscle memory while listening.
I see your point about training while you have elevated adrenaline levels. It may well make it easy to handle a stressful situation but I think the chemical levels involved are way different. In music your pleasure centers are being stimulated. In life or death situations your fight-or-flight syndrome kicks in. Way different.
The brain has enormous processing ability so I'm sure it can multi-task music and shooting. I guess it's a matter of preference and common sense. If I'm shooting in a lane next to a guy juicing on his iPod, I have to take extra care to see that he's paying attention to me and other shooters.
Sorry for the rambling post.
Music is indeed a great tool to aid learning, but it is situational. State dependent learning is a description of a condition in which physical or mental activity is tied to neurotransmitter and other body chemical levels. Music stimulates most of the body's pleasure receptors simultaneously at some level or other. It also dumps adrenaline and endorphins into the blood.
When that nervous system activity is present again it provides easier access to the memories associated with the prior event. In other words if you do all of your shooting training while listening to "Saturday Night Special" it is easier to recall earlier training and muscle memory while listening.
I see your point about training while you have elevated adrenaline levels. It may well make it easy to handle a stressful situation but I think the chemical levels involved are way different. In music your pleasure centers are being stimulated. In life or death situations your fight-or-flight syndrome kicks in. Way different.
The brain has enormous processing ability so I'm sure it can multi-task music and shooting. I guess it's a matter of preference and common sense. If I'm shooting in a lane next to a guy juicing on his iPod, I have to take extra care to see that he's paying attention to me and other shooters.
Sorry for the rambling post.
XDKingslayer
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I watched a guy at the range with an Ipod headset under his muffs. It didn't take too long before the range officer told him to take it off or leave the range.
He was either not hearing, or was to absorbed in the music to hear "Cold Range" being called.
He was either not hearing, or was to absorbed in the music to hear "Cold Range" being called.
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