This is my first post here on THR. I have been reading information posted here for a long time though. Anyway I wanted to ask members opinions and thoughts on short action cartridges sized 308 and larger. I want to buy a nice handy short action rifle for hunting in the timber for deer and elk, possibly black bear too. I have been hunting almost all my life with 270 win and 30-06' and 7mm-08. I have always like the 7mm-08 for its short cycle action and low recoil, but never wanted to use it as first choice for Elk. Since our deer and elk seasons overlap I often carry the 06'. Thanks in advance-Glad to be here. Greg in MT