I have a Mossberg 500 tactical that I'd like to get a shorter buttstock for. Any suggestions? Pics with your comments would be helpful.
Shorter Buttstock For Mossberg 500
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The Mossberg Bantam models have shorter length of pull stocks. They even have a model which includes extra spacers so you can start using it at the shortest length and when your child gets bigger you can add spacers so that it becomes full length.
I like ATI's 5 position tactical. I think $100 is a bit much, but it's probably what I'll go with.
amd6547
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I have the Hogue 12" LOP overmold stock on my Mossberg 500.
With the 18" barrel, it makes for a short overall length.
With the 18" barrel, it makes for a short overall length.
minutemen1776
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If possible, try before the buy. I do not like the long LOP that is standard on many shotgun stocks. I have tried both the Hogue 12-inch stock, as well as a custom 13-inch stock, but neither worked very well for me. With both, and especially with the Hogue 12-inch, the recoil of buckshot and slugs tended to push the thumb of my grip hand into my nose. :banghead: Not good. Perhaps it was poor technique, but I eventually shifted to a Speedfeed IV-S pistol-grip stock for my tactical shotgun.
entropy
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I bought a nice 535 from a pawn shop for 170 bucks which had a stock cut short to 13" LOP. They didn't bother fitting the recoil pad back to it. The gun was like new otherwise and I fitted the recoil pad to the stock with a sander wheel and slipped a slip on limb saver over it. I like it this way. When I'm wearing coats in cold weather, I can take the slip on off for a better fit, put it on for warm weather shooting.
This isn't a tactical shotgun, but a hunting gun, waterfowl was the intention as it has a 3.5" chamber for goose hunting. The price was so good, I just couldn't leave it on that shelf, anyway, LOL. I don't quite understand the tacticool thing about short stocks. I want one that fits proper for quick pointing, natural point shooting, and less felt recoil. But, I've watched the black suited ninjas on those tactical shows on Pursuit channel and they tend to use a poor stance, squaring up to the target. I suppose that's the reason for the short stocks, just a guess.
So, anyway, not sure you can cut off that stock if it's plastic. If you can get your hands on a wood stock for the 500, though, you can trim it to whatever length you want and fit a good recoil pad to it. It's not a tough thing to do, really. Even with a plastic one, if you can't trim it without losing the recoil pad screw holes, you can always use a slip on recoil pad. Probably have to be a smaller sized one. I used a small limb saver on the 535, fits well.
This isn't a tactical shotgun, but a hunting gun, waterfowl was the intention as it has a 3.5" chamber for goose hunting. The price was so good, I just couldn't leave it on that shelf, anyway, LOL. I don't quite understand the tacticool thing about short stocks. I want one that fits proper for quick pointing, natural point shooting, and less felt recoil. But, I've watched the black suited ninjas on those tactical shows on Pursuit channel and they tend to use a poor stance, squaring up to the target. I suppose that's the reason for the short stocks, just a guess.
So, anyway, not sure you can cut off that stock if it's plastic. If you can get your hands on a wood stock for the 500, though, you can trim it to whatever length you want and fit a good recoil pad to it. It's not a tough thing to do, really. Even with a plastic one, if you can't trim it without losing the recoil pad screw holes, you can always use a slip on recoil pad. Probably have to be a smaller sized one. I used a small limb saver on the 535, fits well.
Your stock was too short. Too many folks would be better served using the correct LOP stock which for most folks is 14"+
amd6547
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With my mossberg 500 equipped with the 12" hogue stock, I have to keep my thumb up by the safety to prevent thumb in the nose syndrome.
The idea of the short stock for me is to make my shotgun as short as possible.
The idea of the short stock for me is to make my shotgun as short as possible.
The reason that trainers of LEOs recommend shorter butt stocks is they tend to think of SWAT Teams wearing heavy body armor. When doing such a 14 inch LOP becomes a 16 inch LOP.
A course I took with a Mossberg 500 suggested the bantom stock for just that reason.
Get your butt stock to fit you AND the clothes you are likely to be wearing and consider the butt plate and its effect on your shoulder with what you will be wearing......I almost never sleep in a shooting jacket or skeet and trap vest so I really do not care for a plain cut stock with no butt plate or plain steel of an over folder for 3 AM Home Defense.
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A course I took with a Mossberg 500 suggested the bantom stock for just that reason.
Get your butt stock to fit you AND the clothes you are likely to be wearing and consider the butt plate and its effect on your shoulder with what you will be wearing......I almost never sleep in a shooting jacket or skeet and trap vest so I really do not care for a plain cut stock with no butt plate or plain steel of an over folder for 3 AM Home Defense.
-kBob
Now, THAT makes sense!
Shorter by 2 inches max and in the stock, not the barrel. Oh, wow, THAT'S worth a bloody nose.
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I use a Magpul stock. Its expensive though. Definitely something you want to try before you buy. I think its ugly, but it works well.
Before that, I used the factory synthetic stock cut down to about a 12" or 12.5" LOP. I had to use youth model pad of unknown brand, at some point I used a limbsaver slip on.
Edit: Another reason a lot of instructors reccomend a short LOP is because the common shooting stance has evolved from bladed to squared - partially due to body armor...
Before that, I used the factory synthetic stock cut down to about a 12" or 12.5" LOP. I had to use youth model pad of unknown brand, at some point I used a limbsaver slip on.
Edit: Another reason a lot of instructors reccomend a short LOP is because the common shooting stance has evolved from bladed to squared - partially due to body armor...
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"...like to get a shorter butt stock..." Biggest question is why? Too long of an LOP or kBob's cop armour thing is one thing, but cutting or changing the stock for a coolness factor is ill advised.
"...the black suited ninjas on those tactical shows..." Learned to shoot from video/computer games. Most of which were programmed by people who have never seen a real firearm.
"...make my shotgun as short as possible..." Isn't a good idea either.
"...the black suited ninjas on those tactical shows..." Learned to shoot from video/computer games. Most of which were programmed by people who have never seen a real firearm.
"...make my shotgun as short as possible..." Isn't a good idea either.
Never heard the term "bladed". If you aren't wearing body armor for your game/drill, then having too short of a stock is ill advised. If all you are doing is standing and shooting straight ahead, never to the side, then stand square; but if you have to swing to hit targets either in motion or to your side, squared faced isn't as effective as standing with your off hand foot ahead of your other - that allows you to use your hips and legs to move, not just your hips.
By bladed and squared I was just referring to the shoulders. I always have my weak foot forward. Sorry, I should have specified that.
Having shot against the clock, I'm faster when squared to the target. However my targets are ground level, and I realize flying targets are a different ballgame.
And "bladed" is hardly a new term.
Having shot against the clock, I'm faster when squared to the target. However my targets are ground level, and I realize flying targets are a different ballgame.
And "bladed" is hardly a new term.
amd6547
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I've put about 100 rounds of full power 00buck through my 12" LOP Mossberg with no bloody noses. I've also shot a few five round boxes of Truball slugs, and lately about 20rds of le132 #1 buck, a lower recoil load.
You may think making MY shotgun as short as possible in order to fit MY needs is a bad idea, but you are not ME in MY situation.
You may think making MY shotgun as short as possible in order to fit MY needs is a bad idea, but you are not ME in MY situation.
True, but then you did say:
That indicates a stock that is too short for you. If you doing this because there is another person of smaller stature that might need to shoot it, then that is one thing.
That indicates a stock that is too short for you. If you doing this because there is another person of smaller stature that might need to shoot it, then that is one thing.
Gordon
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CQB especially inside you want a shorter stock (barrel too if possible ) you should keep your thumb from crossing the tang anyway . When the stock is too short it will let you know by bruising your cheek as the recoil will rise the comb up. Most folks operate well with out body armor or very heavy coats around 13" . I can go to 12 1/2" no shorter. This ain't bird or field hunting folks ! My LOP for that was fitted at 14 1/4" for example.
) you should keep your thumb from crossing the tang anyway . When the stock is too short it will let you know by bruising your cheek as the recoil will rise the comb up. Most folks operate well with out body armor or very heavy coats around 13" . I can go to 12 1/2" no shorter. This ain't bird or field hunting folks ! My LOP for that was fitted at 14 1/4" for example.Doesn't matter to me whether it's home defense or hunting, I like 14" length of pull. Guess I'm "average". As to "CQB", I was never in the military nor a LEO, so I don't relate to that. I don't sleep in battle armor so I don't need a short stock for that, either.
Of course, I just keep the most familiar hunting shotgun handy, my 20 gauge coach gun loaded with 3 buck....and I have a choice of handguns if there's a bump in the night.
As to "CQB", I was never in the military nor a LEO, so I don't relate to that. I don't sleep in battle armor so I don't need a short stock for that, either.Of course, I just keep the most familiar hunting shotgun handy, my 20 gauge coach gun loaded with 3 buck....and I have a choice of handguns if there's a bump in the night.
I bought an ATI collapsing stock with a pistol grip on it for my Mossberg Ulti-Mag...I love how it fits into the shoulder pocket nice and tight.
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