Shotguns in Bloodwork?

[Mastrogiacomo]

Don't know if anyone's seen Eastward's film "Bloodwork." There was a great scene when he goes to the back of the police car he's riding in and pulls out a semi auto shotgun. It looked like five shots, black tactical with five shells on the side of the gun. I thought this was a Remy model but can't find a picture of it. Anyone know which model gun this is?

 

[BigG]

Where the gal told him "we just shot up half the valley?" I thought it was an 870 pump.

 

[Mastrogiacomo]

You could be right. It made a "click, click" sound before he let it rip. I just assumed it was semi auto. Could have been wrong. Was it a Remy 870?

 

[Kimber Kid]

I thought I saw a FTE so it might have been a Mossy and the click, click sounded more like a clunk, clunk.

KK

 

[Mastrogiacomo]

Are the bullets on the side something that can be attached or the way the gun is manufactured?

 

[Mastrogiacomo]

Are the bullets on the side something that can be attached or the way the gun is manufactured?

To the Moderator: THR has been a hassle to use lately. Is it just me? It's sluggish to post and sometimes it posts more than once, I get "Web site not responding." Something going on? It takes forever to click on a topic to read it and respond.

 

[Dave McCracken]

Our 'puter experts are working on the probs.

The shells(Not bullets) on that shotgun were probably carried in a Side Saddle, an aftermarket carrier. One 870 here has one.

 

[riverdog]

Mastro, it was probably an aftermarket Side-Saddle, they don't come that way.

 

[Mastrogiacomo]

Well, that's great to know -- I wondered if that was just something I could buy and attach to the gun. I have zero knowledge of shotguns and my father is aching to buy one when he picks up his permit. He keeps asking me questions I don't have answers to. I keep telling him "Ask an NRA long guns teacher..." I think he's particularly interested in the tactical shotguns. Just curious, can civilians buy the Remey and Mossberg police models? I'm not sure whether to direct him to an 18'' Remey 870, Winchester Blackshadow or the police models by Remey and Moss...

 

[riverdog]

Mastro,
Depends who you talk to. Some will say Police Models are for LE only, but there's no rationale reason a civilian can't own one. Rem 870 receivers are all pretty much the same regardless of what is stamped on them.

If Boston/MA law says you can't for whatever reason, buy an 870 Express and dress it up with the same barrel/barrel extension and add a side-saddle.

 

[Corelogik]

I picked up a good used Winchester 1300, put a side saddle on it and love it, next,... ghost rings.

 

[Mastrogiacomo]

My father is killing me with all these shotgun questions like "What's a choke?" How the Hell would I know...

Anyone know of a site online where I could find a listing of shotgun terminology that would answer all his questions?

 

[Sir Galahad]

You can pick up a Winchester 1300 Defender that comes ready to rock out of the box. The magazine is a full length extended tube. Only thing to add is the Side Saddle if you want that. A Mossberg 590 also comes ready to rock, too.

 

[dav]

Mastrogiacomo,

It takes a while to soak the information up, but I advise reading Dave McCracken's two floating posts at the top of this forum.

I think (almost) all questions are answered there, though perhaps not in as condensed a form as you were hoping for.

I especially liked the threads on buying a used shotgun. That is a route I am seriously considering, but before reading the threads would have had no idea how to go about it.

Chokes, differences between 00 buck and dove shot and other such esoterica are really covered pretty well.

Tell you what... make your dad read it all, then prove he knows it by explaining it to you! Saves you the trouble and gets both of you the education.

 

[dav]

Oh, by the way, Mastro...

I have never heard the Beretta shotgun being recommended, could you *really* own anything else?

 

[Mastrogiacomo]

I WOULD GET THE BERETTA -- but my father is still having problems with the high prices. If only he knew I have TWO Beretta pistols...

At the moment I don't particularly want a shotgun because I don't know how to use them. I'd gladly join my father for lessons. I think it's important to know how to care for them and handle them well -- also a nice thing to know how it will feel to use it. I tell my father not to get ideas just yet because once he fires one, it may change his tune. Again, I'd definately get the Beretta but I'd also be interested in a Remey 870, a Winchester 1300 and a Mossberg. They're all nice guns but right now just trying to help my father out. Personally, I'd also like to see him try a Sig 220ST for size...

 

[curt]

Are the bullets on the side something that can be attached or the way the gun is manufactured?

okay so maybe i'm a jerk but i don't see how anyone could have 500 or so posts and ask a question like that.

 

[dav]

Mastrogiacomo wrote:
At the moment I don't particularly want a shotgun because I don't know how to use them

Mastro,
I shouldn't have made fun of your fondness for Berettas. I just went over to their site (berettausa.com) and those shotguns are very impressive. As is their price!
Probably just as well you don't want one right away.
Are the Mass. laws as bad for shotguns as for handguns?

 

[Mastrogiacomo]

@Curt -- no offense taken but if you read my posts through -- I said I know zero about shotguns. None of my other posts have about long guns. My primary love are Berettas -- and a bunch of other handguns I probably can't get with my permit and state restrictions. You need to take a little time to read before you comment.

@Dav -- Berettas are beautiful but yeah, it's quite price tag isn't it? I'd love to shoot clays but I think I'll be moving between Remey, Winchester and Mossberg for sport and home defense. Hell I could probably buy all three for what a single Beretta shotgun would cost me...

 

[9mmMike]

okay so maybe i'm a jerk but i don't see how anyone could have 500 or so posts and ask a question like that.

Easy. If he's a pistol or rifle guy. A few years ago, I had no interest in SG's at all and I do clearly recall asking on TFL "what is a forcing cone?".
It really depends on what you're used to.
Of course responding to your own thread five times will also crank that post count up!
Mike

 

[Mastrogiacomo]

Never actually done that but with the problems I've been having with this site lately -- I'd admit have a few repeats. Hope it's taken care of soon. I was never interested in long guns until recently so yes, I'm pretty ignorant. I'm hopefully a litter stronger in handguns...

 

[Sir Galahad]

Mas, if you thought a S&W revolver had stout recoil, wait til you try a load of 00 buck out of a 12 gauge Winchester Defender! Just kidding. For the price of a Beretta shotgun, you could get a Winchester Defender and probably enough cases of shells to use as a large coffee table for six months while you shoot them up. Winchester also makes a 20 gauge Defender, too, probably one of the very few 20 gauges to come as a dedicated home defense weapon with extended mag already on it. I've thought about that 20 gauge myself just to round out the collection. Mossberg is making a .410 gauge home defense shotgun, but, shoot, just a tad more recoil and you've got yourself a 20 gauge, so I fail to see the point behind that Mossberg. By the way, though maybe your locale might class them as "no-no" guns, Saiga has semi-auto shotguns based on the famous (or infamous depending on the politics of who you talk to) AK action. Being gas-operated, they will cut down a smidge on recoil. You can get them in 12 gauge, 20 gauge, and .410 gauge and they come with a 5 round mags which you can get extra mags at CDNN Investments. Supposed to be very good shotguns from what I hear. But Massahassle might not think you "need" such a firearm, I don't know. These are made at the same factory that makes the AK. If you can get them, you might find one of those to be pretty decent.

 

[Dave McCracken]

A coupla things...

NO other firearm is as versatile and as useful as a shotgun. Within its limits of range, it's the most effective weapon capable of being operated by one person. Anyone into preparedness who is not versed in shotgunning is laboring under an illusion, possibly a fatal one.

Good all around shotguns are neither scarce nor expensive. One could outfit one's family with good shotguns for the price of a decent battle rifle.

And shotguns are FUN. Once fit,form and load are dealt with, shotgunning is lots of jollies and good exercise to boot.

Besides the floaters at the top,Mastro, the 101 series of threads and a couple on "Tweaking" the shotgunner have merit for a total beginner.

How do you folks feel about a "Chokes 101" thread?