Sig P226 or HK USP
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hAkron
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They are both premium guns. Which Sig P226 were you looking at? The Used P226s, especially the older German ones are a great value, and arguably better than the newer style. They aren't usually very pretty though.
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I have a couple P226's and a couple HKs (an HK45 and a USP45 compact). The triggers on the Sigs are nicer. The machining on the HKs slide is simply one of the best. Makes a Glock slide look like an unfinished block of steel.
The HKs seem to have a little better quality feel to them. The HK magazines are better built, especially comparing them to the US made Checkmates.
The HKs seem to have a little better quality feel to them. The HK magazines are better built, especially comparing them to the US made Checkmates.
PGT
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you should also look at the HK P30. I'm juggling the same decision at the moment. I really want a Sig Mk25TB (USN version of the P226) but people are being silly with auction prices right now ($1500) when they could be had for $900 last month.
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Fine guns both of them and you really can't go wrong. As to specific features - the P226 is heavier, but all metal; the USP is lighter and has a polymer frame. In my opinion, the SIG trigger is better; I find the H&K DA trigger to be particularly bad. When it comes to carry, the most commonly found version of the USP can be carried in Condition One (cocked & locked) or decocked, as you prefer. There are several other versions as well. The P226 (outside of a new SAO version) has only a decocker, no safety.
I'm happy to have both a SIG (P6) and a USP (.45) in my collection.
I'm happy to have both a SIG (P6) and a USP (.45) in my collection.
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Sig gets my vote. HK while also a great tool just don't fit my grand that well
Get them both if you can.
Get a SIG CPO? Get both the HK and SIG used?
Get SIG 220, 226, and 229.
HK P2000 or P30 in 9mm, USP in 40, and a HK 45.
And don't stop there. You need at least 40-60 handguns for your collection(to start). Then order ammo by the pallet.
Get a SIG CPO? Get both the HK and SIG used?
Get SIG 220, 226, and 229.
HK P2000 or P30 in 9mm, USP in 40, and a HK 45.
And don't stop there. You need at least 40-60 handguns for your collection(to start). Then order ammo by the pallet.
usp9
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My opinion is purely personal, as it involves ergonomics. I own both HKs and Sigs, and have always prefered the HK grip and control design on the major caliber guns. Either brand are top tier quality wise, but HK seems to be easier for me to use.
Gosh, that is seriously a difficult decision to make! I have a Sig P229 .40 (CPO gun without the rail up front) and absolutely love it. Although it has never failed and I trust it fully, an H&K is still an H&K. They are the epitome of a reliable combat handgun IMHO. I've owned a few and I'm currently on the lookout for a USP .45.
That being said, I will need to find myself a nice CPO P226 9mm (without a rail
) to go with my P229. They are fantastic guns, but I would never buy one of the newer Sigs. Everything about the new Sig Sauer is 
.
That being said, I will need to find myself a nice CPO P226 9mm (without a rail
) to go with my P229. They are fantastic guns, but I would never buy one of the newer Sigs. Everything about the new Sig Sauer is .
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I would go with a SIG if I had to pick between the two. Nothing about the HK impresses me and they have one of the worst DA triggers on the USP. I don't really have any complaints about the SIG other than it's bulky but so is the USP.
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I personally prefer the Sig and would take one over an HK any day.
However, if you like the HK, then that really is all that matters. Don't talk yourself out of a quality gun (that you like) because some other guys prefer something else. That HK would serve you just as long as the Sig and will not do anything less than the Sig.
However, if you like the HK, then that really is all that matters. Don't talk yourself out of a quality gun (that you like) because some other guys prefer something else. That HK would serve you just as long as the Sig and will not do anything less than the Sig.
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Hmmm, tough one. I carry a Sig P220R for my CCW. I would probably give the upper hand to Hk. Two reasons. I love the grip and feel of the Hk USP better, and I have dealt with the customer service of both companies, Hk, hands down has the VERY best customer service I have ever seen. I would gladly trade my P220 for a USP if I could find one locally. Just an old man's $0.02 and take it for what it's worth, an opinion...
Old Dog
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You should also think about parts availability and service. SIG service is second to none, they have their plant in the U.S., and parts are readily available (I get SIG parts to me in my mailbox two days after I order them!)
H&K USP -- my former duty pistol. Yech. Horrible ergonomics, feel like a brick in the hand. Good luck getting parts! (main reason we switched to another pistol) Good luck with the service! (the other reason we switched to another pistol)
H&K USP -- my former duty pistol. Yech. Horrible ergonomics, feel like a brick in the hand. Good luck getting parts! (main reason we switched to another pistol) Good luck with the service! (the other reason we switched to another pistol)
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I work next door to one of HK's US plants in NH. They are here too. I do believe they make their newer pistols and rifles there.
I don't have a 226 but I have owned one and now own a 229. A stock 226 is a good gun. A 226 or 229 elite is a fantastic gun. I believe there is a difference. Between a 226 and HK - either one. 226 Elite or HK I say the Sig wins.
Do you see what I mean
Oh but don't get me wrong - I still want to add an HK to the collection at some point. Probably a .45.
Do you see what I mean
Oh but don't get me wrong - I still want to add an HK to the collection at some point. Probably a .45.
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Well done! Which particular H&K did you buy?
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A solid choice. That was one of the candidates I considered before I decided I just had to have the .45 instead.
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Long story short...years back I loaded a bunch of 40 S&W too light, the H&K would cycle and the Sig wouldn't. Some of the brass ejected literally rolled down the back of my hand.
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I have usp and 226 Elite.
As much as i like usp, elite is much better in grip, trigger and accuracy.
Cant say much about plain 226.
As much as i like usp, elite is much better in grip, trigger and accuracy.
Cant say much about plain 226.
Since buying the full size USP, I think now I'll go with a sub compact Sig. What is the overall consensus best on a subcompact Sig 9mm, strictly a CCW gun. Like I said in my first post, I've always owned Glocks and wheel guns. Looking to broaden my horizons. I am doing my research on Sig but you guys are better research than any book or manufacturers website. Thx in advance. Looking for subcompact Sig that carries the most rounds (double stack) if that is out there?
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