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Who's got 'em, what manufacturer, wet or dry, and what caliber? I've got a friend who might be getting one soon (albeit for his .22LR), and I might as well (for either my 9mm's or my .32ACP), so I'm trying to get some feedback on what caliber's do best with which manufacturer's can. Pictures of your setup are not required, but I'd sure like to see 'em. haha :D
 
Make: Gemtech
Model: Vortex 2
Caliber: .22lr

#1 Buy a dry suppressor and wet it if you want even more suppression.

#2 Once you go through the BS its your’s for life so buy the absolute best, weather you can afford it or not.

#3 Buy from a reputable manafacturer: SWR, AWC, Gemtech.

#4 Take the price of the suppressor plus the $200 transfer fee and plan on spending an equal amount on barrels.

#5 Sonic booms are loud. If you want really quiet keep it subsonic (standard velocity .22, 9mm 147 grain, .45 ACP)

#6 Some guns lead themselves well to suppression, some don’t.

#7 What weapon do you want to suppress

#8 Tell me how to post a picture and I’ll see what I can do.

#9 I’m studying for finals right now; more later!

Dan
 
#1 I like dry because you don't need any artificial enviroment to function, and a lot of cans can function well dry, but allow adding a little water to make them a little quieter.

#2 I tend to do this anyway. :)

#3 Not familiar with SWR, but AWC and Gemtech I know. I also know Advanced Armament Corp.

#4 Elaborate on this one. It's that much to thread a barrel?!?! :confused:

#5 I thought you needed sub-sonic .22 ammo? I know about the 147gr. 9mm, and that most all .45 is sub-sonic. What are some other sub-sonic calibers/bullet weights?

#6 I think the ones I want could be suppressed and still function ok.

#7 My friend's gun that he wants to suppress is a Browning Buckmark. My guns are either Beretta 92's or a Beretta Tomcat.

#8 To post a picture, go to the "Attach file" section of the reply page, then click on the "Browse" button and find a picture of whatever it is you're trying to post, then click "Attach".

#9 Good luck!

Thanks for the reply.
 
One more question: Are suppressors legal in your state? Also do you have a CLO who will sign you off?

As for barrel threading: I’ve spent about $135 to shorten, recrown, and thread barrels for my S&W 22S. I spent $100 for a threaded barrel for my berretta model 21 in .22lr. $120 to shorten recrown thread and remount my Ruger 10/22 front sight. I’m planning on threading another 10/22 barrel here in the next couple months when I have some more money. All threading was done by Gemtech. I’d definitely recommend you send your barrels off to the manufacturer to have them threaded. You void the warranty if you don’t. If you have a barrel not threaded by them have it sent in and approved for use with their suppressor. Barstow barrels for Glocks or H&Ks will run you about $300. DON’T USE FEDERAL ARMS BARRELS! You get what you pay for.

For my S&W I can use any high velocity ammo except for CCI Stingers (I assaume Rem yellow jackets or that Aquali ammo too) with out breaking the sound barrier. In the Beretta nothing goes super sonic. In the rifle I have to use sub sonic or standard velocity.

I think the best caliber to suppress is probably 9mm. .45 suppressors are really getting big. You could suppress .32 or .380 but what’s the point. 9mm 147 FMJ are about $7 a box and much more powerful than either.

ACC is a company I’ve heard mostly good things about. Most people don’t but them up in the same league as the big three. AWC (rumor has it) has poor customer service. SWR is the manufacturer from which my next suppressor will come form

http://www.swrmfg.com/

Also check out LRM Firearms. Small manufacturer but I’ve heard very good things about their 9mm suppressor.

Suppressing a Browning Buckmark shouldn’t be a problem since it‘s a fixed barrel. With center fire pistols the weight of the suppressor can interfere with the unlocking of the slide. You can go around this by going with a lighter suppressor like the AWC Abraxis Titanium, or the ACC Scorpion. The other way around this is to use a Nelson device. This temporally takes the weight off the pistol barrel allowing the slide to unlock. The only widely accepted exception to this rule is the Beretta model 92. You can hang a full sized dry suppressor of the end and it will still function. Or so I have heard / read. There seem to be plenty of people around with this set up who can confirm or deny this for you.

Dan
 
Check out American-Manufacture.com. They sell an integrally suppressed .22 Savage rifle that is so quiet that you can hear the bullet going through the paper target at 30 feet.
 
WWW.gunsnstuff.com or.......

DARK! don't pay to thread them!!
get a new barrel, or http://hem.bredband.net/raihuo/ruger.html
everything 10/22 you want including other cool stuff. also check out the thread adapter! leave suppressor attached to the adaptor and just slip on and twist to lock. browse the site.


already threaded barrels for 10/22

1/2x28 thread

also have beretta 92 barrels there as well.
 
That website can't be for real can it? I would be leary of ordering anything from the site regardless of it's 80% completed hype. Sounds like a BATF trap to me.
 
He's in sweden (really)

It is a dual purpose item as you can see you can use it for potatoe launcher as well which some actually do. I don't advise getting any questionable parts- I don't know about getting full auto parts or the cans but otherwise.... nice guy. Little slow to respond to emails sometimes, but his flash hiders were nice and he sent them relatively fast. No worries he is a real machinist ;)
 
BeLikeTrey: Thanks for the link. Quite a bit of good info on there. I like the pictures page, it’s giving me some good ideas for my extra 10/.22 I plan on SBR ing later this year as funds become available.

Dan
 
Wet is best, although all can be shot dry. Wet used dry is MUCH louder. Get what you can afford. All of the major makers are good. I prefer steel or titanium to aluminum internals since even can corrode the internals. Nothing however is foolproof. Best to have one that takes down for cleaning.
 
I'll have to agree and say that silencers are extremely fun. What's more fun is taking a rare gun and adding a SWR silencer to it.

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Collier: Where and how much did you pay for the H&K P7K3? What about the threaded barrel, where did that come form?

BTW: In my experience the Remington is the loudest subsonic .22lr on the market. Try the CCI Subsonic, you’ll be very happy you did.

Now the big question: How do you like SWR? I’m planning on picking up a GS9-K2 (my second suppressor) with in the next couple of weeks. Do you have any experience with center fire suppressors?

http://www.swrmfg.com/ProductDetails.asp?ID=5

Dan
 
Dan - I picked up the P7K3 about 2 years ago. First in 380 then found it in 22. A company by the name of Tac-Ord built me 2 extended threaded barrels for me, one in 380 and one in 22. It took awhile but it was well worth the wait. Thanks for the ammo suggestion. I have tried about 5 different brands of the subsonic ammo. The CGI is good. Have you tried Agulia (sp?) Super Subsonic Sinper? It's real good.

I love my SWR Omega. Joe at SWR is a great guy and never hesitates to answer any dumb questions I have. His product is great also. I am planning on getting another can from them as well.

Tac-Ord --> http://www.tac-ord.com/ Talk to Jim Ryan. Looks like their website has changed so you might have to call them to find out about their barrel work.

Thanks for the info about your Ruger setup.
 
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