"Small Caliber Leathality" or Why .223 Doesn't Suck

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I was cleaning my office at work and I came across this article from WSTIAC Quarterly. It reports the results of a .556 caliber leathality study done by the Army due to complaints that soldiers in Afganistan and Iraq were experiencing problems with BGs taking multiple hits up close and still able to fight back.

Enjoy:
http://wstiac.alionscience.com/pdf/WQV8N1_ART01.pdf

(I suggest you right-click/save because it's almost 1.5MB.)
 
The real reason that the 5.56 round they are using aren't penetrating is because they are using FMJs... the Hague treaty (which the US subscribes to) will not allow our soldiers to use the increased stopping power of the hollow point, expanding, or frangible ammo that we civilians currently enjoy for home defense and hunting.
 
The real reason we are getting these reports is one of a few reasons:

A) The soldier/marine missed but thinks he hit the bad guy.

B) The soldier/marine did not get a good COM hit.

C) The soldier/marine doesnt really understand human physiology and has unreal expectations of what a gun should do to a person due to movies.

D) Some people by the grace of god survive things they shouldnt.
 
The real reason we are getting these reports is one of a few reasons:

A) The soldier/marine missed but thinks he hit the bad guy.

B) The soldier/marine did not get a good COM hit.

C) The soldier/marine doesnt really understand human physiology and has unreal expectations of what a gun should do to a person due to movies.

D) Some people by the grace of god survive things they shouldnt.

Agreed.
 
I know for sure our troops have taken multi hits from 7.62x39mm and survived.

How come we don't hear about 7.62 being a weak round?

I also could have sworn I read another pdf file that was stating how 5.56mm and 7.62mm NATO shared similar lethality at up to and around 150 meters or so in Iraq.
 
Posted by Gary Roberts on Tactical Forums almost two years ago:
MAJ's Dean and LaFontaine's Infantry Magazine article entitled, “Small Caliber Lethality: 5.56MM Performance in Close Quarters Battle”, in the September-October 2006 issue suffers from ignoring significant amounts of data collected by the JSWB-IPT. MAJ’s Dean and LaFontaine also show a strong prejudice for and an over-reliance on the flawed ARL computer calculations to determine “lethality”. Nonetheless, the article is better than expected based on previous erroneous information publicly released this past summer by the Army on the JSWB-IPT findings.

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p.26 “Wound Ballistics (JSWB) Integrated Product Team (IPT) was eventually able to conclude that: (1) there were no commercially available 5.56mm solutions that provided a measurable increase in CQB performance over fielded military ammunition”
Anybody who has seen the actual data from some 10,000 test shots collected by the JSWB-IPT at 3-10m, 100m, and 300m distances or who has read the original 331 page final draft report dated 12 April 2006, knows that this statement avoids the factual truth. The clear and unequivocal best performing cartridge in the JSWB-IPT was 6.8 mm. In addition, several other 5.56 mm loads performed better than current M855. This was validated by other recent military and law enforcement agency (LE) testing—all of which repeatedly have demonstrated that 6.8 mm offers the best terminal performance of ALL assault rifle calibers tested to date. Of course MAJ’s Dean and LaFontaine know this, as the JSWB-IPT remarked that: “The 6.8 mm projectile had a near optimal balance of MASS, VELOCITY, and CONFIGURATION to maintain its effectiveness, even at a lower impact velocity.”

p.28 “Unfortunately, after that work had been completed and static firings of a wide range of calibers and configurations of ammunition were under way (see Figure 1), the IPT discovered that results were still not consistent.”
The Figure 1 photo is interesting, as it illustrates some of the 53 systems in eight different calibers: 9 mm, .45 ACP, 5.45x39 mm, 5.56 mm, 6.8 mm, 7.62x39 mm, 7.62x51 mm, and .30-06 that were studied by the JSWB-IPT. The quote is also informative, as it proves that the JSWB-IPT did indeed conduct substantial testing on calibers other than 5.56 mm. Yet why do MAJ’s Dean and LaFontaine want to ignore thousands of test shots from calibers other than 5.56 mm when discussing the IPT findings? Because the results were “inconsistent”??? Perhaps instead it is because calibers other than 5.56 mm were deemed to be superior, as demonstrated when the JSWB-IPT wrote: “The best performing systems emphasizing tissue damage, on the average, in this study were of larger caliber than 5.56 mm.”

p.29 “Static CQB Analysis methods measure real damage in gel, but have difficulty translating that damage to results in human tissue.”
While this is the position taken by ARL and PM-MAS, most other wound ballistic researchers do not ascribe to the ARL “dynamic” Wound Task Assessment (WTAI) methodology; many researchers, including Dr. Martin Fackler, former director of the Army Wound Ballistic Research Laboratory and progenitor of modern wound ballistic research, have strongly criticized the flawed ARL computer modeling and statistical manipulation. In fact, virtually every noted wound ballistic researcher and facility in the nation DISAGREES with ARL's methodology and conclusions

In addition, the comment on p.29 is not accurate based on the significant amount of data collected by LE agencies when analyzing their officer involved shooting (OIS) incidents. There is great value in the use of appropriately gathered and interpreted surgical and/or post-mortem data. Gene Wolberg's San Diego PD analysis of nearly 150 officer involved shootings was the first study to begin using such protocols, but other LE agencies, such as the FBI and CHP, that have strong, scientifically based ammunition terminal performance testing programs have conducted similar reviews of their shooting incidents with much the same results--there is an extremely strong correlation between properly conducted and interpreted 10% ordnance gelatin laboratory studies and the physiological effects of projectiles in actual shooting incidents.

On the other hand, over the past 20 years, ARL has NEVER published any information in peer reviewed journals or demonstrated to the wound ballistic research community any correlation of their “dynamic” WTAI computer simulation “lethality” methodology with actual shots into living human tissue.

p.29 “The JSWB IPT began work to standardize test protocols among the participating agencies to allow results to be compared.”
This is true…and the test protocol that was found to be correct, valid, and became the agreed upon JSWB-IPT “standard” evolved from the one first developed by Dr. Fackler at LAIR in the 1980’s, promoted by the IWBA in the 1990’s, and used by most reputable wound ballistic researchers, including the FBI BRF and CHP for the past two decades…the main folks who object to this standard are ARL and PM-MAS.

p.29 “The IPT was ultimately able to determine a reason for the differences.”
While this first sentence is true, the remainder of this paragraph is not. The apparent differences in 5.56 mm performance were obvious on viewing high speed video of the projectiles’ flight paths from muzzle to impact and noting the differences in yaw behavior. Discovering this had NOTHING to do with the ARL “dynamic” methodology which uses the flawed computer simulated “virtual human target” (ie. a naked man with his hands at his sides standing directly 90 degrees frontal to the shooter).

As touched upon by MAJ’s Dean and LaFontaine on p.31, Angle-of-Attack (AOA) variability at impact can substantially affect wound severity; this factor is more prevalent with certain calibers and projectile types. JSWB-IPT testing demonstrated that 5.56 mm projectiles are highly susceptible to AOA variations, particularly when using full metal jacket (FMJ) loads such as M193 & M855. For example, with 5.56 mm FMJ, at higher AOA’s, for example 2-3 degrees, bullets had a shorter neck length (NL) and upset rapidly, thus providing adequate terminal effects; at low AOA, like 0-1 degree, the projectiles penetrated deeper than ideal prior to initial upset (ie. long NL) with significantly reduced terminal effects. Note that OTM’s were less susceptible to AOA variations than FMJ. Other calibers were less susceptible to AOA variations than 5.56 mm; the 6.8 mm proved to have less AOA inconsistencies compared with other calibers tested.

Fleet Yaw is the other significant yaw issue discovered by the JSWB-IPT. Fleet Yaw is the terminal performance variation caused by inherent variability in each rifle and occurs in all calibers. 5.56 mm FMJ appears to suffer more Fleet Yaw induced variability than other projectile calibers & types. 6.8 mm OTM’s appear to have less Fleet Yaw variations than other projectile calibers & types tested.

What this means is that two shooters firing the same lot of M855 from their M4’s with identical shot placement can have dramatically different terminal performance results: one shooter states that his M855 is working great and is effective at dropping bad guys, while the other complains his opponent is not being incapacitated because M855 is zipping right through the target without upsetting. Both shooters are telling the truth…

p.30 Graph labeled “Figure 3”
There were in fact better performing 5.56 mm loads than M855 in the JSWB-IPT testing and 6.8 mm clearly performed best of all. The “Figure 3” graph is misleading at best and is an example of scientific dishonesty at worst. It uses needlessly complex calculations, skewed graphing, overzealous mathematical averaging, and poor statistical manipulation to obfuscate important differences between test samples.

p30. “1. No commercially available alternatives perform measurably better than existing ammunition at close quarters battle ranges for exposed frontal targets.”
This is NOT true, as clearly proven by the JSWB-IPT test data. The JSWB-IPT listed the Effective Damage Rankings (EDR) of the 53 different systems tested; 6.8 mm systems (including 20”, 16”, and 12.5” barrels) dominated the testing, taking 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 6th places. The best performing 5.56 mm system was Mk262 in 7th place. M855 out of a 20” barrel managed to squeak into 10th place. Despite MAJ Dean’s and LaFontaine’s assurance to the contrary, 5.56 mm M855, especially fired out of shorter barreled weapons like the Mk18 and M4 is not a wise choice for CQB. If you need a barrel shorter than 16”, 6.8 mm is a better CQB option than 5.56 mm. In fact, in assessing the end-users request for weapons with increased incapacitation potential, as well as their desire for more easily maneuvered weapons, the JSWB-IPT declared that, “The 6.8 mm performance observed in this test suggests that an intermediate caliber is the answer to the trade-off balance issue.”

p30. “2. Shot placement trumps all other variables; expectation management is key.”
Wound Ballistics is the study of the projectile-tissue interaction. The goal of terminal ballistic analysis in respect to individual soldiers and Marines is to determine the projectile that is most likely to rapidly physiologically incapacitate a dangerous opponent across multiple potential engagement scenarios and through common intervening intermediate barriers. The study of Wound Ballistics does NOT address such topics as training and marksmanship. It is was shocking to read that the MAJ’s Dean and LaFontaine feel one of the most important finding of the JSWB-IPT testing was to urge “proper shot placement”. ANY projectile is lethal with proper shot placement, even an anemic rimfire .22 LR. Shot placement has been a recognized component of incapacitation since mankind first began to kill for food and defense; pierce the charging woolly mammoth in the foot and it gets mad, hit it in the heart and it dies. This is a centuries old function of training and is NOT a revolutionary new finding of the current JSWB-IPT testing. To make such a comment is ludicrous in the context of terminal ballistic testing.

p32. “ Further, we currently cannot control yaw within a single type of ammunition, and all ammunition displays this tendency to some degree.”
Gee, there is a simple solution here--let’s just pick a combat load that exhibits minimal AOA and fleet yaw characteristics to eliminate this potential variable. Of course, as noted above, that immediately rules-out most 5.56 mm ammunition, especially FMJ loads like M193 and M855, as these show the WORST variations of AOA and fleet yaw. On the other hand 5.56 mm OTM and bonded bullets exhibit less yaw variability. Of course the caliber that demonstrated the LEAST yaw variability in the JSWB-IPT testing was 6.8 mm; too bad MAJ’s Dean and LaFontaine forgot to mention that in their article…

p32. “The technique of engaging CQB targets with controlled pairs--two aimed, rapid shots as described in Chapter 7 of FM 3-22.9--was shown to be significantly better than single aimed shots (see Figure 8).”
Please…this is NOT a wound ballistics revelation, but purely a training issue. It is a well known training technique taught for many decades in virtually every firearm training curriculum for law enforcement and military personnel. AGAIN, like shot placement, this is a training issue; it is clearly NOT a new finding of the JSWB-IPT testing and has nothing to do with terminal ballistic testing. To pretend otherwise is asinine.

p32. “Soldiers and leaders everywhere should take heart from the fact that despite all the myth and superstition surrounding their rifles and ammunition, they are still being provided the best performing weapons and ammunition available while the armaments community works to develop something even better.”
It is hard to take heart or remain silent when being force-fed such “limited truths”…

See: "Infantry" Magazine article re 5.56 ballistics
 
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I wouldn't hunt human-sized game with steel-core, 62 gr 5.56. BUT, there are distinct advantages that the military has with this ammo that we don't. Particularly automatic fire. You are much more able to get multiple hits with real assault rifles with auto or burst. While I have my doubts about dropping a 200 lb mulie with one, I doubt they would run very far after three. Also, in combat applications, there is a legitimate need for rounds that will shred the average car. This need is much more remote in civilian applications. I'm not a sniper or designated marksman. I'll put my faith in several hits of 5.56 rather than wish I had something bigger and more difficult to control. I certainly don't wish I was training my female soldiers to shoot M-14s or even AR-10s.
 
"I know for sure our troops have taken multi hits from 7.62x39mm and survived."


Of course, 7.62x39 has horrible terminal ballistics. It makes a good hole, but no explosion or expansion, providing it's FMJ.
 
I dislike the fact that we're using bullets designed to penetrate helmets out to 800 meters for CQC.
 
did i read that report right.....two well aimed shots are better then one well aimed shot? You dont say.....Very good deduction sherlock

I wonder how much that study cost us.
 
If they want lethal, they should go back to 1/12 twist and 55 grain bullets.

Part of the whole problem now, if there is one, is the 1/7 barrel makes the 63 grain ammo too stable to tumble and break at longer range!
Or out of 14.5" barrel M-4's.

rcmodel
 
All things considered, I wouldn't want to be shot with any size of bullet, not even a lowly .22.

That being said, why is it so difficult for people to at least accept that getting shot with a bigger chunk of lead, versus a smaller chunk, is probably less healthy for you.

The arguments that go back and forth over .223 vs 7.62, 9mm vs .40 or .45, birdshot vs buckshot, etc...

I know there are many variables that affect shooting and being shot, but all things considered, it is usually worse for the human body to be hit with bigger chunks of lead, versus smaller.
 
The real reason that the 5.56 round they are using aren't penetrating is because they are using FMJs... the Hague treaty (which the US subscribes to) will not allow our soldiers to use the increased stopping power of the hollow point, expanding, or frangible ammo that we civilians currently enjoy for home defense and hunting.

Yes, although I believe that the DOJ ruled that in actions in the 'war on terror' we can use HP, frangible, etc. ammo anyway. I think most troops don't just because of logistics, but I know for a fact that there are certain units that do.
 
Part of the whole problem now, if there is one, is the 1/7 barrel makes the 63 grain ammo too stable to tumble and break at longer range!
Or out of 14.5" barrel M-4's.
The problem is decreased velocity, not rifling twist rate.

The bullet yaws but penetration resistance (a factor of velocity) is insufficient to cause substantial fragmentation, which is needed to increase wound trauma.
 
Deer Hunter, I'm not sure I'm on board with your friend. There's more involved than just replacing the barrel.
 
Some guy at my club said the troops are putting .308 barrels on their rifles because .223 is so weak. A little part of me died right then.

Deer Hunter, I'm not sure I'm on board with your friend. There's more involved than just replacing the barrel.

Yea, .308 or 7.62x51mm won't fit the magazine or mag well. The Upper wouldn't take the pressure, The bolt face is all wrong. Etc etc.
 
I think The Deer Hunter knows this, which is why it made him so sick.

Don't worry man, stupid people give me headaches too.
 
That being said, why is it so difficult for people to at least accept that getting shot with a bigger chunk of lead, versus a smaller chunk, is probably less healthy for you.

I think it's not so much that people don't accept it (generally speaking, anyway), as the fact that any cartridge used for combat service is by definition going to be a compromise and trade off. Besides just the obvious issue of basic load of ammo a guy can carry, there are other issues like recoil and trajectory that effect how fast and how reliably guys can put rounds on target, etc

Yes, although I believe that the DOJ ruled that in actions in the 'war on terror' we can use HP, frangible, etc. ammo anyway. I think most troops don't just because of logistics, but I know for a fact that there are certain units that do.

Use of JHP ammo is very tightly regulated by JAG, and normally reserved only for specific SOF units doing specific missions, even though our opponents mostly are not lawful combatants who are compliant with the laws of land warfare, etc.
 
Around the world it is not unusual for our military people to be attacked by hostile enemy personnel that are stoned out of their minds. In the Arabian world it is hashish. In the Orient heroin and opium smoke is the common pre-combat drug of choice. So there you are, armed with a .223/5.56 boomstick trying to drop a spaced out Haji or communist soldier. Guess what? Unless you put a bullet through your enemy's head, that piece of crap tiny little bullet isn't going to do the job. I saw one instance where multiple head shotss were needed in Viet Nam to drop an enemy soldier. To really drop an enemy soldier who may or may not be drugged up for combat, you need a decent bullet with a decent diameter and weight to its construction. 7.62 NATO works well for most shooting situations which is why the military has brought back the M-14 rifles and are now supplying the new 7.62 NATO SASS sniper rifle system to as many squads as possible. There is even talk about dumping the M-4/M-16 rifles completely and going back to the 7.62 NATO shooters for as many soldiers and Marines as possible.
 
7.62 NATO works well for most shooting situations which is why the military has brought back the M-14 rifles and are now supplying the new 7.62 NATO SASS sniper rifle system to as many squads as possible.

They brought 7.62x51 DMRs into service for a specific role.

The problem with 7.62x51 was always that it simply does not work well for most shooting situations. It has utility for certain missions on the battlefield, but as a general service cartridge was pretty much a flop.

There is even talk about dumping the M-4/M-16 rifles completely and going back to the 7.62 NATO shooters for as many soldiers and Marines as possible.

There's talk of anything and everything up to 40 watt phased plasma rifles, but no one with any actual authority to make a decision is calling for 7.62x51 coming back for general service. Nor are any serious researchers, ballisticians, and others working on R&D, to the best of my knowledge.
 
Are you folks trying to assert that you have to disrupt the centeral nervous system or a major bone structure to stop someone who isn't in their right state of mind (or very determined)? Forget shot placement, Hollywood proves that any rifle that looks at least a little evil will blow a bad guy across the room and he won't get up!
I hear the 50bmg has more stopping power, maybe we should issue select-fire M82s to everyone. That would be easier than changing to more effective ammo to comply with that agreement we never signed.
 
rcmodel is onto something here; the origional ar's had a 1/14 twist for the 55 grainer, barely stable at all, and when it did hit flesh, tumbling began instantly.
Very ouchy. Some of those early reports from Viet nam with this setup where very gruesome. but who bi@$ched about them? The Airforce, which gave us the AR in the first place. They pantygriped that in supercold weather temps, if the flyboys had to ditch and drop out into survival mode, that the 1/14 ar twist was not accurate enough for them, and what they wanted to accomplish. I guess that was to be able to hit a snowshoe rabbit for food at 300 meters, apparently the stability was pretty much zero , in cold temps approaching or going below 32 degrees. So the army Switched to a 1/12, and the rest , is history.
 
Yes, they are getting the new sniper rifle to as many snipers as possible.

I aluded before, and I'll be more specific now,

I have petite female soldiers in my squad. I can absolutely assure you, their mission is critical in this war, and they do it as well as anyone else. I do not wish for one second they had any rifle other than the M-4/M-16. They are not physically capable of mastering that rifle, certainly not in full-auto fire. I retrained one of my female soldiers in the simulator, and her rifle score jumped from a 23 to a 38. (expert.) We did room-clearing last weekend, and she led my squad through the whole kill house successfully. NO OTHER SQUAD DID THIS. She's 5'1" and about 100. Now try making her do the same jobs with an M-14 or AR 10. There's a reason we have kept this rifle longer than any other rifle in the history of the Army. More people can do the job better with it than any other. It doesn't matter how powerful the bullet is if they can't hit the mark with it. Three SS 109s on the target is better than a whole M-14 magazine OFF the target.
 
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