Freedom_fighter_in_IL
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Beautiful Deer picture
Even BETTER picture of a deer
Nuff said there!!
Even BETTER picture of a deer
Nuff said there!!
So beautiful, majesty creatures. DIE!!!!!!
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castingdonkey
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There was a peta person on the radio. I personally missed the show and would have loved to have called in. My wife on teh other hand got to hear the woman speaking about how people don't actually crave meat they just crave protien and that the craving could be satisfied by eating some salty nuts lol. She also stated that people don't drive by a beautiful deer out in a field and picture roasted venison. My wife at that point was cracking up and talking to herself saying you must not know my husband cause he says yum everytime he see's one
Loosedhorse
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Beautiful and majestic...
Ain't forever, bucko! Not for any of us.
That same buck in a few years: teeth beginning to go, nutrition down, all set up to be taken down by a tough winter, or a pack preditor...or a car (do they count as pack preditors?).
A few years ago, I was fortunate enough to take a kudu bull. Magnificent: scarred, missing part of an ear, a broken horn tip on one side. Character. Also: down to his last molars, past his breeding prime. Said my guide: "You just did this fine animal a H-ll of a service."
Doesn't mean it isn't sad to see a dead, beautiful animal. There's pride there, too; and appeciation, thanks. It's a complex brew.
I forget who said, "It is appropriate, after killing his first elephant, for a grown man to cry."
Ain't forever, bucko! Not for any of us.
That same buck in a few years: teeth beginning to go, nutrition down, all set up to be taken down by a tough winter, or a pack preditor...or a car (do they count as pack preditors?
).A few years ago, I was fortunate enough to take a kudu bull. Magnificent: scarred, missing part of an ear, a broken horn tip on one side. Character. Also: down to his last molars, past his breeding prime. Said my guide: "You just did this fine animal a H-ll of a service."
Doesn't mean it isn't sad to see a dead, beautiful animal. There's pride there, too; and appeciation, thanks. It's a complex brew.
I forget who said, "It is appropriate, after killing his first elephant, for a grown man to cry."
On Thanksgiving day I admired the beautifully cooked turkey. I noticed the perfectly browned skin and the juice that leaked from it pores.
Then I ate it.
Just because something is aesthetically pleasing doesn't mean that that is it's only appeal. I love to watch deer. I think they are beautiful and graceful and just a joy to watch. That does not mean, if it was legal to do so, I wouldn't put a bullet in it. If the goal were only to get ugly deer, I think I'd enjoy it much less.
The shooting of an animal, be it arrow or bullet, has nothing to do with hate. It has to do with fair chase, challenge, the prospect of good food, the enjoyment of the outdoors, etc, etc. If you think you have to hate an animal or find it aesthetically unpleasant to shoot it, than maybe you need to find another sport.
When these guys talk about the beauty of deer before they shoot it, they are showing appreciation for what is given to them by God, Mother Nature, whatever. That's totally respectful.
Then I ate it.
Just because something is aesthetically pleasing doesn't mean that that is it's only appeal. I love to watch deer. I think they are beautiful and graceful and just a joy to watch. That does not mean, if it was legal to do so, I wouldn't put a bullet in it. If the goal were only to get ugly deer, I think I'd enjoy it much less.
The shooting of an animal, be it arrow or bullet, has nothing to do with hate. It has to do with fair chase, challenge, the prospect of good food, the enjoyment of the outdoors, etc, etc. If you think you have to hate an animal or find it aesthetically unpleasant to shoot it, than maybe you need to find another sport.
When these guys talk about the beauty of deer before they shoot it, they are showing appreciation for what is given to them by God, Mother Nature, whatever. That's totally respectful.
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jmstevens2
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That looks goooood. What is the cut and name of the dish?
Zombiphobia
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u sure that wasn't someone who shat his pants after being charged by that elephant?
Just kidding
shiftyer1
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It's really pretty simple, who would watch a show saying hey!!! look at that pathetic scrawny deer over there. I'm gonna shoot it. Ha ha he fell over.
I see the beauty in the animal but there is a food chain and I do believe I am above this animal on that chain. I've seen some beautiful cows also but all I see is steaks and roasts. My deer hunting consists of what I choose to take in my general home area. I take what I need to fill the freezer till next season and enjoy the rest everyday while I watch them. I don't have any real BIG bucks here but if I did I don't know if I would choose one. Haven't found one recipe for horns and old buck is pretty tough.
I see the beauty in the animal but there is a food chain and I do believe I am above this animal on that chain. I've seen some beautiful cows also but all I see is steaks and roasts. My deer hunting consists of what I choose to take in my general home area. I take what I need to fill the freezer till next season and enjoy the rest everyday while I watch them. I don't have any real BIG bucks here but if I did I don't know if I would choose one. Haven't found one recipe for horns and old buck is pretty tough.
CoRoMo
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Can this be proven? I'm interested to see/read something that backs this up.
Everyone old enough can remember the 1975 CBS Special “the Guns of Autumn”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1090248/index.htm
The anti gun and anti hunting hysteria had hit a peak in the post Vietnam years. The liberal media created scripted programs showing as much brutality and gore, as much as could be shown on prime time, to abolish hunting. Liberals got whiteback seal hunting ended by showing pictures of cute baby seals being clubbed. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2009/05/05/f-seal-hunt.html
Liberals are always trying to horrify the general public to push their agenda forward. Hunters are regularly portrayed in the liberal press as stupid , insensitive, murderous.
Nothing in the liberal bias of the liberal media has changed, and they are still trying to ban guns and hunting.
TV shows are scripted. This includes hunting shows. They don’t want to antagonize anyone and they want to show a good positive example to the general public. So they come across as respectful, thoughtful, sensitive.
You all should be mindful of this, when talking about hunting or showing pictures from your hunts. Those with a liberal agenda are trolling the web looking for distasteful images and accounts to push their agenda forward.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1090248/index.htm
The anti gun and anti hunting hysteria had hit a peak in the post Vietnam years. The liberal media created scripted programs showing as much brutality and gore, as much as could be shown on prime time, to abolish hunting. Liberals got whiteback seal hunting ended by showing pictures of cute baby seals being clubbed. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2009/05/05/f-seal-hunt.html
Liberals are always trying to horrify the general public to push their agenda forward. Hunters are regularly portrayed in the liberal press as stupid , insensitive, murderous.
Nothing in the liberal bias of the liberal media has changed, and they are still trying to ban guns and hunting.
TV shows are scripted. This includes hunting shows. They don’t want to antagonize anyone and they want to show a good positive example to the general public. So they come across as respectful, thoughtful, sensitive.
You all should be mindful of this, when talking about hunting or showing pictures from your hunts. Those with a liberal agenda are trolling the web looking for distasteful images and accounts to push their agenda forward.
They don't need to look too far. Just take a peek behind the double doors of any butcher shop. S'pose any a them animals might fall into the "beautiful and majestic" catagory?
Too much philosophy fellas. If the hunt for any reason bothers you, or you have to play mind games to make it more palatable, maybe you oughta take up golf or somethin!
Loyalist Dave
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I agree, the entire day in the woods is a gift for me, just seeing some of the wildlife is a gift for me, and when the right animal presents a shot, that's a gift for me, and the final gift for me and my family is the meal, preceded with a prayer of thanksgiving for the gift, galled grace.
That's just me and for mine, other's lifestyles may vary...It's called hunting not getting, and as a matter of fact last Saturday and yesterday I saw lots of deer, but either not in range or not a safe shot..., so will keep trying.
LD
Sheepdog1968
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Spot on. When I took the hunter ed class, they had a nice page or two about a typical hunters development. Kind of reminded me in a very loose way to Koldberg stages of development I studied way back when in school.
PedalBiker
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What I find more disgusting than killing something you consider majestic for food is crass gluttony.
People will stuff themselves to bursting with the flesh of an animal that never even got a second thought in their minds.
Even vegans can be gluttons. Carving out your space on the planet displaced something else and it's not like you can really purchase "credits" to offset a lavish lifestyle. Nature doesn't work that way.
I'm sort of a right wing environmentalist. I try to set a good example and then let people make their own choices. Sure I'll vote for laws that I feel are absolutely necessary, but mostly I try not to interfere with others because I realize I'm not perfect either and I really don't want other people pushing their nirvana on me.
People will stuff themselves to bursting with the flesh of an animal that never even got a second thought in their minds.
Even vegans can be gluttons. Carving out your space on the planet displaced something else and it's not like you can really purchase "credits" to offset a lavish lifestyle. Nature doesn't work that way.
I'm sort of a right wing environmentalist. I try to set a good example and then let people make their own choices. Sure I'll vote for laws that I feel are absolutely necessary, but mostly I try not to interfere with others because I realize I'm not perfect either and I really don't want other people pushing their nirvana on me.
caribou
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I am a Subsistance Hunter in the Arctic, I make a living Hunting/Fishing/Gathering/Arts-Crafts.
I respect any animals that lives outside 24/7 and generally is actually being eaten as it dies, as only we get to die inna bed.
I speak of my prey in full name teems out of respect. I never say "Brownie" only Brown Bear, Not "'Bou", but Caribou, and on.Often we speak of "They, 'Them or 'Those fellas".
I Catch beautifull animals with my beautifull weapons and feed my beautifull children.
I do so without hate and with the greatest respect. I kill quickly and as painless as I possibly can. I respect what is going to litterally feed and clothe me, as well as pay my bills, give me and my family customatry and traditional ties to our forefathers and those before them.
Its all quite natural, my eyes look forward, my teeth are made to tear flesh , my hands and brains make weapons that out tool any animals tooth, claw or horn.
The animals can live without me, I cannot live without them.
Death is certain, we are all certainly and unavoidably going to DIE.
I am the Apex predator known as Homosapien, I am Man.
I respect any animals that lives outside 24/7 and generally is actually being eaten as it dies, as only we get to die inna bed.
I speak of my prey in full name teems out of respect. I never say "Brownie" only Brown Bear, Not "'Bou", but Caribou, and on.Often we speak of "They, 'Them or 'Those fellas".
I Catch beautifull animals with my beautifull weapons and feed my beautifull children.
I do so without hate and with the greatest respect. I kill quickly and as painless as I possibly can. I respect what is going to litterally feed and clothe me, as well as pay my bills, give me and my family customatry and traditional ties to our forefathers and those before them.
Its all quite natural, my eyes look forward, my teeth are made to tear flesh , my hands and brains make weapons that out tool any animals tooth, claw or horn.
The animals can live without me, I cannot live without them.
Death is certain, we are all certainly and unavoidably going to DIE.
I am the Apex predator known as Homosapien, I am Man.
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Caddisflied
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The more you hunt deer the more you admire them. IMO
Around here, deer would become overpopulated and starve during the winter, or get hit by cars if it not for deer hunters.
Harvesting wild game is no less ethical than buying a bigmac from a drive-thru.
Around here, deer would become overpopulated and starve during the winter, or get hit by cars if it not for deer hunters.
Harvesting wild game is no less ethical than buying a bigmac from a drive-thru.
Lloyd Smale
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I had a good friend when i was young thats father raised orphaned fawns. The DNR would find them and bring them to him and he would raise them until they were old enough to set free. When he set them free alot would stick around close to there home. He was a hunter. I once asked him how he could shoot deer after having them for pets and possibly even shoot one of his pets. He told me this. A deers life is short and usually ends in a not to good of way. Either there killed grusomely by predetors or starve to death in the winter. He said he knew that when he shot a deer it died quickly and died a much better death they it would have in the wild. He said he also knew that the area by his house would only carry so many deer through the winter and in the spring he would find deer dead that died from starvation. I think alot of it is the average guy and even hunter goes in the woods and sees maybe 20 deer in a season and figures theres not that many deer. Go to the fields we do crop damage shooting and sometimes theres over a 100 deer eating potatoes at one time. We can shoot a couple scare away the rest and come back the next night and sometimes see even more. I kill alot of deer usualy more the 50 a year. Do i dislike deer. HELL NO. I love them. Especially with onions and mushrooms! Bottom line though is hunters arent evil men doing terrible things to deer. Alot are sportsman that understand that to help the many though the winter the few have to be killed.
HoboCoastie
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I love cute animals. They go well with potatas and veggies!
beatledog7
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I got interested in hunting after getting interested in target shooting which came after becoming interesting in carrying a gun for self defense. So I watched some of the hunting shows and rapidly determined to never become like the people in the shows, going on about how gorgeous the animal is or what spectacular antlers or what an interesting set of brow tines and G4s and...whatever.
If I shoot Bambi, it's because I successfully spotted/tracked/stalked/ranged Bambi, and all of that because I want to eat Bambi. I don't care if Bambi's got great G4s or if he's got a shiny coat. He's food, and I don't eat antlers or hair.
Besides, God meant this to be so...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth" (Genesis 1:26, KJV, emphasis added).
"Dominion" means Man decides the animal's fate.
If I shoot Bambi, it's because I successfully spotted/tracked/stalked/ranged Bambi, and all of that because I want to eat Bambi. I don't care if Bambi's got great G4s or if he's got a shiny coat. He's food, and I don't eat antlers or hair.
Besides, God meant this to be so...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth" (Genesis 1:26, KJV, emphasis added).
"Dominion" means Man decides the animal's fate.
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I love the deer.
In fact I love the beauty of most of God's fur and feathered creatures tremendously.
But I take what I need for my needs when the time comes to be in the field with a good rifle.
Of all these replys Caribou's is the one that speaks the loudest too me.
I totally agree with what he said.
In fact I love the beauty of most of God's fur and feathered creatures tremendously.
But I take what I need for my needs when the time comes to be in the field with a good rifle.
Of all these replys Caribou's is the one that speaks the loudest too me.
I totally agree with what he said.
Creature
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Killing for the sake of eating is one thing.
But killing for the sake of killing is quite another. Killing a deer just to see if you have the intestinal fortitude is useless and frankly, disgusting. There are other ways to "test" yourself. Go jump off a bridge with rubber bands attached to your feet.
But killing for the sake of killing is quite another. Killing a deer just to see if you have the intestinal fortitude is useless and frankly, disgusting. There are other ways to "test" yourself. Go jump off a bridge with rubber bands attached to your feet.
627PCFan
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"kill the buck on the left".
lol Ankey wins
lol Ankey wins
Art Eatman
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"Killing a deer just to see if you have the intestinal fortitude is useless and frankly, disgusting."
I really doubt that you'll find anybody admitting to that sort of silliness. Most deer hunters are interested in recipes.
I really doubt that you'll find anybody admitting to that sort of silliness. Most deer hunters are interested in recipes.
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