So his daughter's date shows up...

[TonyB]

After an afternoon at the range,I was just finished cleaning my G17.I realized I had to start dinner,so the holstered Glock stayed on the counter while I cooked.Then my Daughter came in with her new Boyfriend(who she actually broke up with this weekend)....he just kind of stares at it like a deer in headlights......She introduces him and I go to shake his somewhat clamy hand.He has the "dead fish" shake.After a couple of seconds he says"is that a gun?".."a Glock actually."I say..."what's it for?"he says..."shooting"I say....."shooting what?"......"anything my daughter tells me too...."
he laughs a nervous laugh...then realizes he's the only one laughing.
A few weeks later we all go out to eat.My wife says to him:I won't make you sit next to the guy with the gun."I say"Sit across from me,so I have a better line of fire."again,nervous laughter,from him only.My daughter says"that's not funny,well maybe a little."gotta love her.

 

[thorn726]

looks like an invitation to several lawsuits and a very unhappy daughter....

i remember having my life threatened by an old grandpa whose daughter i was seeing, things to the effect of "if she is soiled, you will die"

NICE- especially since girl had been having sex for years already.

fguns are for defense, not offence.

this poster, im sorry, but it tells antis we are crazy idiots that might shoot over something incredibly stupid

 

[The Freeholder]

Personally, I plan on being supportive of my kids' efforts to get laid...but that seems to be the minority view.

Wait until you have a daughter come home pregnant at some young age, or a son shows up with the pregnant young thing. Or maybe some nasty Dad has your son arrested for statutory rape. Or you get stuck with the grandkid to raise. Etc.

You might wish you hand't been quite so supportive.

 

[30Cal]

I've heard that if you really want to go for the intimidation factor, you have to be wearing only socks and skivvies when pulling the "gun cleaning routing."

Funny picture though!

Ty

 

[dasmi]

Thorn: As he stated, it's a joke on his friend, the guy in the picture.
TonyB: I hope your daughter got rid of that pansy.

 

[odysseus]

then there my (adopted)brother Robert. weight 285, height 6'5, skin color, midnight black.body fat content-less than 20 percent.profession-student/defensive end for University of Southern mississippi. him=scary and large. between him, me, my dad, my football buddies, they don't stand a chance. there has been one successful little guy, he's ok, but believe me he's had the once over many many times.

That's silly to think, more so to even write down. I can only know about what you wrote here, so here it goes. Your sister is not some object of your power trip or need for control. You jealous of her? It's funny, I dated girls who had brothers like that when I was younger - and I only had to smirk at their brothers and what the girls would tell me about them. It's a joke. Guys with the attitude and description you write here have a lot to learn. I grew up with sisters as the only boy, and I learned faster about this than most: What you give in respect and generousity to women, you get returned in multiples!

Let me tell you something that might save you some trouble. Respect your sister and women as equals, it will allow you to have better relationships in your own life with woman (if that's the direction you steer) and you will get a lot more out of those relationships.

 

[Oleg Volk]

With proper safety practices, sex and firearms use can both be recreational. Just because gangbangers knock up ignorant or unwilling partners, or they shoot and injure people, doesn't mean that more civilized people have to fall into the same pattern.

 

[Thrash1982]

A friends younger sister recently started college. Soon after starting she had some guys start hitting on her. She wasn't terribly interested in them so she put up a picture of her brother, me and sever other guys standing in the woods with various firearms. As well as some of her targets from when her brother took her out shooting. The advances pretty much stopped.

 

[patent]

I don't think I had any fathers try this. Most of the dads I came across in high school just weren't the sort that could pull this off convincingly. Had a couple brothers of a girl I dated in college sort of give me a couple looks, but they knew I understood them well enough so they didn't need to be explicit about it. Probably would have done me some good had they done so.

I tend to agree with the poster that said we need to raise up our daughters to be responsible. I also believe, however, that young men need more than to simply be told no by the daughter. IMHO, they need to be encouraged to be gentlemen from the get go, not to be a lout until the girl slaps them and only then start to behave. IMHO, its a good idea for the men in society to make it clear they expect a certain sort of behavior from other young men.

Its my experience that young men will respond differently to pressure from dads than they will to pressure from women. That has certainly been true with the boys I know now, as well as with my own boys. Mom tells them to do X, and they react one way. I tell them, and they often react quite differently. This has always dissapointed me, as I want them to mind their mom the same way they mind me, but I haven't been able to get them there yet.

So, I doubt I'll ever do the shotgun cleaning routine intentionally, though if they date long enough it'll happen anyway. I do expect I'll spend some time to get to know the young man and make it clear I expect he will be respectful to my daughter, and to let him know I'm around if he isn't respectful. Despite the fact that I expect to raise my daughters to handle themselves, I also believe men need reinforcement from men.

I expect I'll also get to know the young women dating my sons, though I somehow doubt I'll be compelled to be as explicit about my expectations as I will with the young men. For those that want to scream that this is sexism, I don't particularly care. Its quite simply my observation that young men and young women are at least somewhat differently motivated, and that they typically require somewhat different supervision.

patent

 

[Offwhite]

The assistant principal at the school my father used to be a principal at pulled fun little stunt on his daughters first ever "gentleman caller" (her first ever date). For the purpose of people possibly knowing them I will live the names out:

The youngman rings the door bell and the father opens it.
FATHER: Good evening son?
YOUNMAN: Hello is ___ ready?
FATHER:She'll just be a minute you know girls. Why dont you have a seat on the couch while you wait.
The Youngman sits down and as soon as the Father's wife walks out of the room he walks over to the Youngman, pulls a pair of his daughter's painties out of his pocket and throws them at the Youngman.
FATHER: Put these on.
YOUNGMAN: (stunned)What, sir?
FATHER: I said, PUT THEM ON!
YOUNGMAN: But sir, I can't get into those...
FATHER: Thats damn right, and you remember that tonight son!

Unfortunetly it doesn't involve any good gun story, but funny non-the-less. This is a true story that happened about 4 years ago.

 

[STW]

I never considered the gun speech with my girls. We simply kept them involved with sports and helped them be very confident in themselves and in us. One of them, 5'2", has twice beaten up boys that got out of line. While I knew any intimidation I tried wouldn't be learned, a cute but intimidating girl is an ongoing lessen.

 

[rustymaggot]

overly protective brothers do more harm than good. the girl just ends up being imature and slutty. guys, if you show no respect to your sister regarding her choices and you make her feel like her judgement of someone is inferior you will just drive her to act out.

ive met a few parents and some were cooler than others but most of them liked me more than any other guy their daughters brought home. in highschool when i was a senior i dated the freshman daughter of a cop. her dad loved me. she said that i was the first guy who ever looked her father in the eyes when i met him and shook his hand and thats why he liked me.

the funniest speach i ever got from a father when i was dating his daughter went like this.... me and the girl were at her house while her dad was at work. i had not met dad yet. he unexpectedly pulls up outside and walks very quickly into the house and right past where we were sitting in the living room and walks into the kitchen. he gets a coke. comes out and says to her " YOU, come home tonight" then looks at me and says YOU, bring her home" then walks out and drives away. this led me to ask where she was the previous night. needless to say that that relationship didnt last long.

once i dated a girl whos mom was a bigger gun nut than i am. her mom gave me a pistol for christmas. it wasnt a good pistol but it was a cool gift regardless.


if i ever have a daughter ill do my best to make her a good judge of character as well as teach her how to defend herself. i dislike sexism as much as i dislike racism and hypocracy. regardless of if i have a son or a daughter ill probably raise em the same. a well raised kid is a well raised kid regardless of sex. far as a daughter, i doubt ill do anything too scarry in front of the guys she might bring home. however, i did like the "whatever you do to her im gonna do to you" speach. i might use that one. it has that other kinda level of creepiness to it.

 

[pax]

Oleg ~

If you don't get on your kids' cases so much they have to learn how to lie with a straight face and also learn how to get away with stuff without being caught by authority figures, you're denying them the opportunity to learn some important life skills.



j/k.

Mostly.

pax

 

[Titus]

Back in the day, I'm sitting on the couch, waiting for the date, and her father says about the rifle over the fireplace, "You like that rifle?" "Yes, sir." "Well, don't make me use it on you!" All I know is that scene in Bad Boys II is about 1:30 into the movie. "That's right! I just got out of jail and I ain't goin' back!" Call me old-fashioned but that's good times.

 

[bigun15]

Personally, I plan on being supportive of my kids' efforts to get laid...but that seems to be the minority view.

Are you by any chance looking to adopt a youth?

 

[ctdonath]

Massad Ayoob's older daughter brought a new suitor to meet dad.

At work.
While teaching a SWAT team.
In full body armor.
Carrying lots of guns.

Suitor did not continue pursuit.

 

[Andrew Rothman]

I think that if you treat your daughter with love and respect, she will grow up expecting (demanding) that from her gentlemen callers.

If you treat your daughter with domineering control, she'll either rebel in kind, or find a guy who treats her just as badly.

That said, I'll be teaching my daughter to look out for herself, and I'll be the backup.

And if some guy tries to hurt her, I won't need any firearms when I tear his face off.

 

[RyanM]

"Of all human sexual abberations, chastity is the strangest." -Ani DiFranco (I think).

 

[Gewehr98]

That's interesting.

Personally, I plan on being supportive of my kids' efforts to get laid...but that seems to be the minority view.

I'm visualizing Oleg squeezing into the back seat of a car with two hormone-raging teenagers, coaching his daughter.


The picture of our subject father-to-be would look better if there were a shovel propped up against the far wall in the background, and a tarp neatly folded beside it.

 

[mustanger98]

This thread's been one extreme to the other. My understanding is those of us who want our sister or daughter to stay safe- we make these efforts hoping we won't have to hurt somebody. But, the suggestion of the shovel and tarp takes us from the humorous end of that train of thought, to about the creepiest end. I don't think those of us who have any sense would actually want to have to make the guy disappear; mostly I think we'd rather the loser went on and left her alone.

As for what Oleg and a few others might do, well, we don't always agree with how others raise their kids, but unless really bad, not to mention illegal, stuff starts happening, we can't afford to have a dog in that fight. It takes all any of us can do to mind all our own business. We all need to do our best to raise our kids right, although some of us ain't even to that point yet.

 

[Gewehr98]

It's a joke, son, a rather old one, often repeated by fathers of teenage daughters.

Lighten up and save your scrutiny icon for a better fight, Mustanger98. Nobody's suggesting that homicide will really be the outcome of the event. Guess I didn't use enough smiley icons. My bad. I'll not inject humor into another thread, I promise, ok?

I'd first heard it as a teenager when I was dating somebody's daughter 20+ years ago. The joke was even repeated on the movie "Clueless" not too long ago. It goes something like this:

"Young man, I own a .45 and a shovel...don't make me have to use either one."

Another variation:

"I got a .45 and a shovel, I doubt anybody would miss you."

We fathers often tell jokes like that. Just like the old one about the difference between a girl baby and a boy baby. If you're humor-impaired, please skip the following bit:

If you have a boy, as he grows up, you only have to worry about one penis. If you have a girl, you have to worry about all of them.

 

[mbs357]

Teenage guy here too.
Not worried about dads because I'm awesome and a gentleman.
And also because I've never had a date and I don't see any on the horizon. =(

I think what it is is I'm too nice.

 

[Agent P]

10 rules

Test1968, that's a great list. Had to wipe off the moniter after reading it.

Rule 5's preferred answer of an "early" return could mean 6 am, too. That's early. (At least to me it is. I'm more of a night owl.)

 

[Greg L]

As long as Oleg doesn't have boys & he turns into their fluffer - that is a bit over the top .

As a father of 2 boys & 1 girl I can see both sides of the issue. From what I've seen in my (limited) experience, raise the boys to respect their mother and raise the girls to kick their brothers butts all over the yard.

If you can accomplish both then you will have young men who can hold their own against the assorted dads (provided of course that you chose a mother worthy of their respect ) and a young lady who can show all the all too prevalent metrosexual males out there what a man really should be.....

 

[mustanger98]

Gewehr98, I know it's a widespread joke. My use of the scrutiny icon was only meant to denote a serious observation of how the situation can go. I've made jokes about stuff like this too, when I was face to face with folks and they could tell I was kidding. I'm not saying we shouldn't be humorous and I'm not about to say that.