Springfield 1911 ejects casing into forehead

[fastbolt]

It's not impossible to get a defective recoil spring, or one made at the wrong end of the normal tolerance which fails quickly.

Some attention to a reasonably firm grip technique and a locked wrist, coupled with a fresh recoil spring, might offer some further insight into the situation.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Chuck Warner]

Since its a new gun, check for proper orientation of the spring. Open loop to the muzzle, closed loop on the guide rod. I would still change the spring to be safe, then look at further options if this doesnt resolve it.

I reread your post and see that your extractor is now tuned as well. Try a different one if you can

 

[franko07]

i just tried to get in contact with springfield to order new springs for the guide rod system and i will order another extractor and ejector as soon as i figure out which one to get.

also i am a machinist and can enlarge the ejection port on my mill, is this somthing reasonable or am i not going to be able to approach it that way?

im open to suggestions on both the extractor and ejector

 

[fastbolt]

You know, if a new recoil spring doesn't do the trick, why not just have Springfield correct the condition under warranty?

Beats trail & error if you aren't experienced with the nuances of working on the 1911 platform.

Curiosity is all well and good, but it's really easy to screw up things and make new problems once someone starts dabbling with the 1911. The old "fix it till it's really broken" syndrome.

Just a thought. Might be something easily diagnosed and addressed by Springfield under their warranty. Might save some frustration.

 

[franko07]

after i emailed the problem to springfield, they told me to send it to the custom shop for a lowered and flared ejection port for $65 and that they couldnt warranty it because it was a common problem with the GI series guns.

so i dunno what i want to do about it at this point yet, somthing tells me to send it in and get them to do it but then again im kinda hesitant.

 

[fastbolt]

A common problem with their GI series models?

I've handled and fired older Colt GI configured .45's with the smaller ejection port and wasn't being pelted with empty cases. Dunno what to tell you. Personally, I'd expect more from them in the way of customer support and warranty coverage, but then I'm used to some other firearms manufacturers.

I don't have enough time logged with Springfield guns to offer an overall opinion, aside from saying that I've seen more satisfied Springfield owners than Kimber owners among our folks.

However, recently one of the other armorers brought me a sear from a new Springfield. The sear nose looked like someone had tried to turn it into a file. It was very rough and notched across the whole top.

I hope you can get your situation resolved to your satisfaction at some point.

If the $65 (plus shipping?) modification does the trick, it might be a better long term resolution than the frustration of putting up with it or trying to resolve it yourself.

 

[Greg528iT]

Let them do it. If in only because they can refinish the slide to match. Unless of course your machine shop has a parkerizing station? If it wasn't an exposed part, you might get away with cold bluing pen and keeping well oiled, but still that sounds like a problem waiting to happen.

 

[franko07]

this is the email i was sent


Hello Frank,

Thanks for the email. We can offer lowering and flaring the ejection port through our custom shop. That is a $65 service and will help with the ejection trajectory. Unfortunately shells towards the shooters head is a common characteristic of the GI model.

Please contact our custom shop at [email protected] or at 800-617-6751



Thank you and have a great day!

Penne Bormann

Customer Service Rep.

1-800-680-6866, Ext 8972

Springfield Armory

Email: [email protected]

 

[ir3e971]

fastbolt is right on target. I fix many things myself. However, I was in your shoes about a year ago. After several efforts, I made a mess of the ejection issue.

Long story short...

I should be getting my 1911 back on Monday from SA. Fixing it yourself (perhaps) can be frustrating, and pricey if you screw up. (I did).

 

[franko07]

thanks for the advise, as said in the email that they could fix it for $65 it turns out that the custom shop wont honor that price and want $90 to do this plus $45 to refinish the slide plus a $30 service charge. im thinkin i will just get the defense service for $350 if i cant get them to deal with the warranty issue. should have upgraded the first time

 

[MCMXI]

I think this is another example of you get what you pay for ... which seems to be particularly true for the 1911 platform. All of the 4" Kimbers come with a deep "scallop" cut at the rear of the ejection port but they cost quite a bit more.

 

[h2o4ever]

cases to the head

hello, i also have a sa champion gi that does the same thing.At first it was one or two out of the mag but now it is like every one or every other one.Ihave read that a lot of people has the same deal going on so i thought it to be normal.But it sure would be nice to shoot my gi without getting beaten by cases. I have had it several yrs. now so i dont know if it is still under warr. or not.

 

[franko07]

now that i have detrermined that it wont get done under warranty, i am looking at getting it to be more accurate, i was lookin in the custom sheet and was wondering what yall would upgrade and keep the look the same.

i have determined i need to start with the 1911-a1 defense package which includes
1. Deburr pistol internally
2. Tune extractor & ejector
3. Recut barrel throat & polish feed ramp
4. Install custom match bushing
5. Check headspace
6. Install new recoil spring & firing pin spring
7. Tuned 4.5 lb. trigger
8. GI Models: Lower & flare ejection port; install extended ejector
9. Refinish as needed (Additional charge for some finishes)
10. Reliability tuning
11. Inspect & test fire for function


i would also like to get the front of the grip checkered but i dont know much about the DPI's and such.

 

[Jackal1]

I did not read all the posts... not enough time... but FWIW the SW1911's supposedly have a tendency to shoot ejected brass at the shooter's head for the first hundred rounds or so until the gun breaks in. After breaking in, the gun ejects just fine.

 

[ir3e971]

Frank,

For my GI I did the following:

Installed Novak sights and had the ejection port flared. Did this with Novak.

The pistol has always been 100%, and accurate. Probably have three thousand rounds through it. I just got sick of getting ponged with brass.

I Tried installing a new extractor and tuning it, and an extended ejector, only to have it converted to a pistol that spit cartridges out like a popcorn popper. Then the ejector incident happened... (broke one of the legs off in the blind hole...).

I was just sick about it, and I sent it back to the mother ship for repair. Figured that they built it, they can probably fix my screw up.

While there I had them put in a match bushing, and install new ejector and tuned extractor, as well as reparkerize the lower parts (it is somewhat dinged up, as well as having a flat mainspring housing from an S&W that did not match)

It put me out 230.00 total. However, it arrives Monday, and I will be glad to have it back in the stable.

Good luck.