tuckerdog1
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When I saw the thread title, I was afraid it was going to read StevesPages was going away. So glad to find out that is not the case. Thank you so much for keeping it alive.
Tuckerdog1
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Stevespages will remain. It is just a massive work to insure that all critical data is safe before I put it back online. 
Much of the site IS still up. The low priority areas. If you haven't yet, check out the historical dos area. http://stevespages.com/historic-vids.html
My favorite one is http://stevespages.com/WarVids/TheLastBomb1945.mp4
More about all the coordination and planning than the actual bomb. Very interesting.
Much of the site IS still up. The low priority areas. If you haven't yet, check out the historical dos area. http://stevespages.com/historic-vids.html
My favorite one is http://stevespages.com/WarVids/TheLastBomb1945.mp4
More about all the coordination and planning than the actual bomb. Very interesting.
Glad you're doing what you're doing. If hosting ends up being a problem, please reach out.
No, you were not able to log in as you have not been assigned a username or password. None have been assigned yet do to the aforementioned issues in this thread and the work being to required to secure it against combatant countries not yet being completed. You were able to type in anything you want in those fields, but it was not valid information. If you could just go to the site and put in any username/password you wanted, it would not be secure at all. With thousands of edits to do to the system before making it all available, it will still be a few days until it is all ready.
Glad you're doing what you're doing. If hosting ends up being a problem, please reach out.
Derek, many thanks for the offer. I already have large hosting in place. For each membership request, it will require lookups on the IP address of each applicant to insure where they are coming from, location wise. PM inbound to you.
Since .html files are essentially just text files, it should be possible for someone knowledgeable in any of the modern scripting languages or 3rd generation programming languages to write a series of utility programs to automate that process. Check with your local high school or community college and see if any of the IT teachers have someone they would recommend.
Excellent idea but writing the script would take the same number of entries as there are a total of about 10k .html files in the root. Not all will be moved so a script to automate the process would be difficult. Steve seemed to have little understanding of this as the later dirs had a much more logical naming system and were in proper locations. I actually have a guy that I was writing a new Linux OS for years ago and is currently in an Ivy League college finishing his PHD in computer science helping. It's just that there are SO many entries to make. An air impact wrench speeds up changing tires but if there are 3000 cars to do...
Blkhrt13
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I clicked and got a 403 error when trying to get to the page.
403 is the error you will get (it means permission denied) on a directory that is still locked down as that is one I am still working on. I'm guessing you went to steves....page7a.htm. This is the one that has literally multiple thousands of manual edits that must be done to link all the moved files back to the menu. Directories
that are done will give you a popup password box to which no passwords are yet assigned.
that are done will give you a popup password box to which no passwords are yet assigned.
Taurus 617 CCW
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Thank you for continuing to host this invaluable resource. It has come in handy many times for me.
Additional update...
Spent some time on the phone with the programmer today (A friend from India, currently at an east coast ivy league school working on phd in computer science (I'm so proud of him!)) and we reviewed all the steps I've taken so far. We both feel confident that measures in place will provide desired security. Yea! Tomorrow at 7 am we will both be logged into hosts control panel and looking at best way to put owners manuals back on line. Making progress. I may be a day later than I had hoped at first... being back online with everything but training manuals but it's very close now. Password system has been tested and is working! More as it comes and I appreciate everyones patience!
Spent some time on the phone with the programmer today (A friend from India, currently at an east coast ivy league school working on phd in computer science (I'm so proud of him!)) and we reviewed all the steps I've taken so far. We both feel confident that measures in place will provide desired security. Yea! Tomorrow at 7 am we will both be logged into hosts control panel and looking at best way to put owners manuals back on line. Making progress. I may be a day later than I had hoped at first... being back online with everything but training manuals but it's very close now. Password system has been tested and is working! More as it comes and I appreciate everyones patience!
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Making progress! I have about 45 account built and they are all working smoothly! Still awaiting the implementation of the database as it will make creating accts much less work as I won't need to go to 5 directories and add permissions for each user, but it's back in business. Have not yet changed the front page to reflect this as potential trafic and requests could be overwhelming. But accounts are up and running!
Still awaiting the implementation of the database as it will make creating accts much less work as I won't need to go to 5 directories and add permissions for each user, but it's back in business. Have not yet changed the front page to reflect this as potential trafic and requests could be overwhelming. But accounts are up and running!
Legionnaire
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Thanks for keeping us updated! Pretty cool about Numrich ...
TRX
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> attempting to download the entire site
Why not add a link to point them to the mirror at archive.org? http://web.archive.org/web/*/stevespages.com
Why not add a link to point them to the mirror at archive.org? http://web.archive.org/web/*/stevespages.com
dh1633pm
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Steve there are probably many here who work in technical fields that might be coaxed into helping a little on making things go. Myself I don't code, but am I a level 3 Network Engineer who travels extensively doing Network Security and encryption. In case you need such a skill. And thanks for the site.
I myself am retired from 30 yrs as network engineer specializing in security... I don't do coding either as to me, it was dry and tedious. StevesPages has become a subscription site as (a), it never has paid for itself and it must, and (b) having the requirement of logging in is the only way to control access and insure hostile to us entities don't have access. I've set subscription at $12 per year and if StevesPages doesn't have the manual you're looking for, I'll do my best to find it for you.
Before someone pays an annual subscription because they want to download a manual for their gun, will they at least be able to see whether you have the manual or not?
It seems to me a better way to do it would be to charge a one-off smaller fee at the point of download and make up the rest of the income with ads and donations.
Another thing is: do you not feel that having an annual subscription may dissuade people from submitting manuals? The original spirit of the manual submissions was that they were freely uploaded and downloaded. Now it is a submission with a one-way benefit, which excludes the person who submitted it in the first place.
Unless you want to put in a commission system where the person who submitted the manual gets a small percentage of the download fee, or possibly a one-for-one download credit (which would be better since you would then not have to deal with paying out any money).
It seems to me a better way to do it would be to charge a one-off smaller fee at the point of download and make up the rest of the income with ads and donations.
Another thing is: do you not feel that having an annual subscription may dissuade people from submitting manuals? The original spirit of the manual submissions was that they were freely uploaded and downloaded. Now it is a submission with a one-way benefit, which excludes the person who submitted it in the first place.
Unless you want to put in a commission system where the person who submitted the manual gets a small percentage of the download fee, or possibly a one-for-one download credit (which would be better since you would then not have to deal with paying out any money).
flphotog
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Again, the problem with donations is that people don't. StevesPages (until I started blocking off major portions of the world) got 1 million to 4 million unique hits per month and I and say (from Steve and my personal experience for the last 4 years) is that one in 1.5-2 million visitors donates $5-$10. The website had NEVER paid for itself. Ever since I've had it, I've had to pay $30-$50 per year out of pocket to cover yearly fees. It MUST support itself. Last week I found a thread over on some forum where some guy was bragging that he had downloaded the whole site but donated $15 to bandwidth. On the plan Steve had that bandwidth probably cost $30 so that $15 donation was no favor.
Another aspect is that I REQUIRE a phone call as the last step in registration. This has several benefits. My user base may indeed be much smaller now and that's OK. It is also much more personal. In this required phone conversation, the registrant gets to speak with me and gets my phone number. Through our conversation they realize that I am sincere and willing to help. If I don't have a manual they need, I'll do my best to find it for them. And really, $12 per year is peanuts. This is not a "profiteering" venture. I've had direct costs of closing my business for almost 6 weeks now to spend 15 hour days watching logs to see traffic from overseas and blocking it. It's OK, I would rather NOT have traffic from Iran, Russia, China etc... I'd rather have a rapport and relationship with users.
An email inquiry to my address listed at StevesPages will get you all the info you need. If you decide to, indicate that you are coming from THR and I'll know that you don't need all the background info as you've already seen it here and I'll just send you the "Terms of Service" text which has 3 simple rules and the 3 steps for gaining access be username/password.
Re-addressing this as I missed a few of the talking points...
I have so far now let in a few gunsmiths from around the country and most have indicated that if they acquire a manual I don't have, they'd be happy to scan and send it.
As far as seeing if I have it... Many have written me to inquire about this. I am happy to check and actually yes, you can go see by yourself though it's slightly confusing do to where I've have to install passwords due to the directory structure which the coming database should take care of. IE if you start at the front page of StevesPages ( www.stevespages.com ) and choose the first link "STEVE'S RELOADING, FIREARM MANUAL AND OTHER PAGES" ( http://stevespages.com/page1.htm ) , it takes you to the BigSky page which asks for a password because the "jpg" directory is protected. But, you can simply click cancel on the password prompt and scroll to the bottom of the page. Try it and choose firearms from the bottom menu. Scroll to bottom again and choose "Owners Manuals and PDFs" (which is page 7b that most go to from their bookmarks). This is part of why this whole process has taken so long. I am answering about 50 emails a day on "why can't I get to..." because few read the description on the front page telling what happened and why it's changed. And that's OK as I do have time now that I am retired.
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