bruzer
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I always say, "Sorry girl" when I smash a Black Widow Spider. They are such a beautiful spider but they have to go.
Mike
Mike
But free range hogs and cattle are just as free as deer.
Not all hogs and cattle that are raised for slaughter are free ranging, and it's not exactly the same as freedom even if they are. Conditions are often overcrowded and unsanitary. Think also of the process used for producing veal. For those animals, death is a gift.
Sure, can I borrow your truck?Anybody want to go hunting?
Sure, can I borrow your truck?
Hogs and other animals that are bred for slaughter are never free. Their death is a release from bondage, and possibly even a relief. Wild game animals were born free and have lived free. Their death is a sorrowful occasion for me because it represents the death of a free spirit.
Domestic hogs on the other hand live in a controlled area where there's no danger from predators, they're feed high quality feed on a regular basis and have fresh water at their disposal.
Does anyone honestly think a pen raised hog looks through wire of his pen and thinks "Gee....wish I were out there...."
It's funny...I think we humans try to place our own feelings and desires into animals.
wankerjake, I admire your thought process!I agree, there's a big disconnect for sure. I used to feel pretty sad, but then I think about all the meat I've eaten in restaurants or from the store... Animals are dying to feed people, if you decide to eat meat you probably shouldn't be too sad to kill one. Therefore if you are so sad about it that you can't hunt, you probably shouldn't eat much meat. If you don't see it die then it's easy to forget, but that doesn't make it any more right to eat it if you think it's wrong to kill animals. Killing is just part of living, this is a pretty fundamental concept of nature. It's only easy for us (humans) to forget since we don't have any predators and our meat comes from the store. And so people condemn the butcher while paying their salaries. Bugs me.
...free range hogs and cattle are just as free as deer. AZ is full of free range cattle, I see them all the time when I'm deer hunting; same habitat, same habits, same feed, same watering hole. AND, they run from you when you get close. They're looking for what's coming, just like the deer. The only difference is that most of the deer go to predators, and most of the cattle end up on dinner plates in fast-food joints.
Great point ZeroJunk!If the people who think meat comes from grocery stores had to kill a few themselves along the way it might change their thinking about some sanctimonius anti hunting position is all I'm saying. Vegetarians get a pass.
Everytime you bite into a steak or a Quarter Pounder you are in fact responsible for an animals death.
Sounds like an Animal Farm utopia to me, and if they knew their ultimate fate...I'd wager that they'd bust down the pens and make a break for it...rough life or not.
Well that raises another moral dilemma: if one thinks that the animals raised for people to eat are treated unfairly and unjustly so much that he thinks killing them is doing them a favor, then maybe he shouldn't partake in creating demand for this behavior by eating them. Food for thoughtHogs and other animals that are bred for slaughter are never free. Their death is a release from bondage, and possibly even a relief.
I feal something too............ recoil!
J.B.