Taking out the trigger safety on glocks!

[combatantr2]

My glock 22 is coming in next week and im thingking of removing, taking out the trigger safety off the trigger lever, if this can be done. I figured that on glocks, a trigger safety is not a safety trigger at all. These safeties for me are just trigger extensions and they are cumbersome and have no safe purpose at all.

Your thoughts pls., thanks.

 

[WeedWhacker]

Removing mechanical parts from firearms is often trickier than it initially appears. I strongly suggest you actually use the pistol before deciding to make arbitrary modifications which will void your warranty, among other things.

Further, if the Glock is "coming in" next week, how have you decided that anything is cumbersome? In what way "cumbersome" when it is transparent to the operator?

 

[Jim Watson]

The "trigger safety" is to protect you against the gun going off if dropped muzzle up. A low probablility but a high consequence.

 

[Snarlingiron]

One of the things the trigger safety does is prevent you from putting a .40 caliber round through your butt as you re-holster your weapon. It is, however your butt.

I have put literally thousands upon thousands of rounds through Glocks (as well as Hi Powers, various revolvers, etc.), and I truly have never noticed it at all. It is so light that the trigger just feels like a trigger. My advice is DFWI.

 

[Todesengel]

Taking out the trigger safety on glocks!

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My glock 22 is coming in next week and im thingking of removing, taking out the trigger safety off the trigger lever, if this can be done. I figured that on glocks, a trigger safety is not a safety trigger at all. These safeties for me are just trigger extensions and they are cumbersome and have no safe purpose at all.

Your thoughts pls., thanks.

+1 ....explain your reasoning to the court if you ever have to use your modified glock in a shooting.

 

[Master Blaster]

On Glock the firing pin safety will prevent a ND if the gun is dropped or some other part fails, The Firing pin safety only releases the striker/ firing pin if the trigger is pulled all the way to the rear.

The trigger safety is held in by a small pin in a slot in the trigger, It rests against the frame preventing the trigger from being accidentally actuated by say a shirt tail tucked into the holster. It too can fail if say the shirt wraps all the way around the trigger, or if you pull the trigger when dissassembling the gun, AND you have forgotten to take the round out of the chamber first.

This is number 1 and number 2 problem with Glocks going off.

Removing the safety will probably give you a nasty blister on your trigger finger since there will then be a large slot in the middle of the trigger.

 

[ZeSpectre]

(Picture uncle ZeSpectre sitting in front of the camera next to a crackling fireplace and holding a story book).

Hello everyone, and now the parable of the Honda owner...

I'm reminded of a guy I knew who bought a brand new Honda and then (before he ever drove it) "riced" it out by, among other things, changing out the springs and slamming it down to the ground.

He complained bitterly that it was the worst handling car he'd ever owned and decided to sell it. After several people told him he'd never sell it "riced" like it was he set about to return it to stock condition including putting the suspension back to factory.

So while he's waiting to sell it he's still driving it around and suddenly he realizes that it drives great and he really wants to keep it.

The rest of us gave him a lot of grief along the lines of "so...you decided the engineers at Honda might know something after all?"

 

[Green Lantern]

If you haven't actually shot one before, I don't think it's cumbersome at all. You can't really tell it's there. It does not have an effect on the trigger pull (to me anyway).

Plus, there's the added protection against ND if dropped. I'm VERY glad I had it when I dropped mine on gravel with one in the pipe!!! :banghead:

And then, the courts. No matter what the situation, a rabid DA can paint you as a "grossly negligent" induvidual, yadda yadda....

I say +1 on DFWI.

 

[glocktoberfest]

might as well mexican carry it , if your gonna test fate .

 

[whited]

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If it ain't broke...

uhoh: )

 

[Owen]

cumbersome?

 

[strat81]

Owen beat me to it. What's cumbersome about it? Is it the most comfortable trigger? No, but I haven't blistered or broken the skin on my finger yet and it functions exactly as intended. If you don't like the trigger, buy a different pistol.

 

[HorseSoldier]

I'm not much of a Glock fan, but I've never noticed the trigger safety as being inconvenient, troublesome, or in the way when I've fired Glocks. For me, personally, the potential downsides to removing a safety feature from a Glock would outweigh whatever benefit to the removal (though, admittedly, I don't see any).

 

[Coronach]

I file this very firmly in the "...why?" category.

Mike

 

[Kor]

Check your newsstand...

...IIRC in the current Harris Publications Custom Combat Handguns 2007, J. B. Wood has an article where he does exactly this, removing the trigger safety from a Glock 19. However, he ALSO has the aftermarket Cominolli frame-mounted safety lever installed to take the place of the trigger safety.

IMO, a classic example of trying to force one tested, proven handgun design to become a gun that it is not...like most every other poster has said, "Why bother?"

Seriously, take it to the range and shoot it first(if you have not already shot another Glock) - if you absolutely cannot grok the Glock, I'll do you a favor and take it off your hands for $50.00(but only because I consider you a friend, and I don't want to see you stuck with a gun you don't like)...that way, at least you've got $50.00 to put towards a different, better gun for you.

 

[g5reality]

WHY?

Why? You won't even know it's there. shoot a few 100 rounds through it and then see how you feel.

I wouldn't change a thing...except switch out the 5.5 for a#3.5 trigger pull.

 

[Flopsy]

Don't do that.

 

[GunNut]

Leave it and round it so it sits flush with the trigger when fully depressed.

But don't remove it.

 

[mljdeckard]

+1 for legal problems.

NEVER DISABLE ANY SAFETY MECHANISM ON ANY PISTOL, particularly one you plan on using for defense.

If the pros who use Glocks, 1911s, Sigs, etc for competition leave their safeties on the pistol, YOU SHOULD TOO. Glocks function just fine with the trigger safety.

 

[Geno]

Sorry...double posted by error.

Sorry...double posted by error.

 

[Geno]

When in doubt, don't.

I never mess with factory-set triggers. When it comes to Glocks, I wouldn't even put a 3.5 Lb. trigger in there. One of the professional writers (Massad Ayoob) who comes here wrote of the topic of factory safety measures some months back. If you mess with it, and ever having to be defended, best it be just as it came from the factory. When in doubt, don't. I hope we've all given a bunch of doubt.

I believe this is the thread in which magazine safeties were being discussed with Ayoob:

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=210230&highlight=trigger

I am not sure if that thread will be of help, but again, at best I hope to encourage doubt/pause.

Best of luck and be safe.

Doc2005

 

[BADUNAME13]

I would also like to do this.

I am not a fan of Glocks, but reciently took a class with a Glock 19, and the lame excuse for a safety 'bothered' me.

I see no way that taking it out would disconnect the drop safety, and lets be honest, if something gets in the trigger guard with enough force to press the trigger it will also depress the 'safety'

HOWEVER, doing so could cause various problems already mentioned, from liability, to warrenty...

I took the class (Tactical Response, they are good to go, different training style than Gunsite, but still good.) with the Glock because I wanted to master the trigger reset, and be proficient with them if necessary.

My solution is to learn the trigger reset, and continue to carry my Kimber 1911. It's just not worth the modification. If it is too much of a problem there are many other pistol choices.

 

[Black Majik]

"Please pick up line 3, Darwin's on the phone..."

 

[ezypikns]

Good Idea!!

I just took out a 100,000.00 life insurance policy on you.

 

[default]

With all due respect, and to try and answer your reasonable question honestly, that is a terrible idea. Apart from any legal and functional issues, or any dubious "feel" benefits you might experience by removing it, the trigger safety, while an arguably somewhat marginal device (less marginal than some claim, in my humble opinion), can protect you against an unguarded moment of poor trigger discipline when re-holstering, fishing around for the pistol in a duffel bag, carrying it in a purse full of pencils, etc.

Love it or hate it, the GLOCK trigger safety does in fact prevent off-axis pulls of the trigger, even strong ones, from firing the pistol. In principle, like the 1911 grip safety (which has its fair share of critics), it is a sort of "dead man's switch" that attempts to ensure positive control of the pistol by its user before the firing pin is allowed to strike the primer. Ultimately how effective either of these controversial safety features are is debatable, but they strike me as unobtrusive insurance against Murphy.

If you really dislike the feel of the trigger safety (I don't even notice it), there are other high-quality quasi-DAO polymer pistols available.