taurus 709 : someone school me on these?

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What's the skinny on the Taurus 709?

I was previously settled on pm9>pf9.. but it seems that the taurus709s are showing up in threads now?

I also didn't see it on the all-famous pocket auto comparison - is it b/c it's new?

so what's the deal w/ these?

The only thing that turned me off about the pf9 was that I liked the build quality and trigger better on the pm9.. both of these options seemed to be fine in my book for reliability tho.
 
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Lol. I think this characterization is a bit unfair. The quality of Tauruses should be judged more on whether that particular model has built up a solid reputation or not. This is certainly true for the Taurus PT1911 and PT92/99/100/101 series which have solid reputations. So far I think we have to wait a bit more and see for the 709 but all indications show it's a decent gun.
I work at a large sporting goods retailer by the way and I can say that most Tauruses are decent but quality control is lacking compared to other companies...
I remember the old Millenniums were pieces of s*%&! But most of the problems got ironed out in the Pro model (though I can't say all my suspicions have gone away).

Remember Tauruses has a lifetime warranty ... and a good thing too because many people discover that they need it!
 
I had one and loved it. It was like a Walther PPS for a few hundred bucks less.

Easy to carry because it was single stack, didn't recoil much more than my G26, dual strike capability (If you have a light primer strike, pull the trigger again) External safety, and the trigger wasn't half bad. More accurate than I am from 15 yds.

Too bad I started having double feeds, Light primer strikes, stovepipes and slide lock issues with it. I tried 3 different magazines, and even replaced the extractor to no avail. I had heard horror stories about Taurus Customer Service, so instead of sending it back, I disclosed the info to a friend and traded it + Cash for a NIB G26.

I'm still thinking about getting another single stack 9mm. (Probably a PPS or EMP).
 
I have one and love it. It's my most carried pistol.

Light, thin, real sights, nice trigger, soaks up recoil like a much larger heavier gun, comes with two mags. Mine has maybe 500 rounds through it without a single malfunction.

If you really want to pocket carry a 9mm, maybe spending the money for a PM9 is worth it, because they're a little smaller, but if you just want a thin 9mm to carry IWB, you might as well get the 709.

Cmfireman, I think you should've at least given Taurus a chance to fix it. Most of the horror stories are old; I have read many recent reports than indicate they have improved their customer service a lot.... and heck, if you look hard enough, you can find horror stories of customer service from even the companies known for good customer service (i.e. smith, ruger, springfield, kel-tec).
 
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Too bad I started having double feeds, Light primer strikes, stovepipes and slide lock issues with it.
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My brothers has had all these problems since new. His 709 is a disaster! Too bad because it does seem to be a nice/different design. It's just typical Taurus QC.....You either get a descent one or you get junk. I, personally will never give a dime of my money to a company with such inconsistent QC.

He's noob to pistols though and I told him, if he would have taken me with him, no way in hell I'd of let him buy a Taurus semi-auto.....Revolver maybe.

I'd look elsewhere.....IMO
 
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I guess this means different things for different people, but to me this is a good thing. I have had a positive experience with their guns.

I have a T709 and it is one of my favorite IWB guns that I use for concealed carry. It's just an all around good gun and very comfortable to wear. It's got one of the best triggers I've ever used on a inexpensive polymer gun. I think of it as a refined pf9.
 
I have a 709 that I carry every day. It has well over a thousand rounds through it of all sorts of FMJ and JHP without significant issues. It needs to be kept squeaky clean. I've done extensive shooting with the PF-9 as well, and I much prefer my 709 - it's not really a range gun, but it's nice enough to shoot that I don't mind doing a lot of practice with it. I also like the manual safety and the 'second strike' trigger. Some folks have had issues with FTE's, but mine has been fine.
 
Mine works, I've carried it on and off for the last 6 months, mostly when I am jogging or bike riding. 500 rounds and the only problems I had were during the 1st 50 rounds, I attribute that to the breaking-in period. Never had a problem out of it since.
 
I've had mine for almost 2yrs now. When I bought it, it wouldn't run a full mag of ammo with out jamming. Sent it back, whatever they did, it's been perfect since. I carry it every day IWB.
After about 500rounds the trigger got even better. It's very accurate for a small gun. It a keeper in my book.
I think it's head and shoulders better than any Keltec. No offense to the Keltec guys, just my opinion. Different strokes and all that.
 
I just bought a 709 slim last night. It was covered inside and out with sticky grease. I disassembled it and gave it a thorough cleaning, including the mags.
Took it to the range today and shot it for the first time. I put a variety of ammo through it, both hardball and hollow points, several different brands, and both 115 gr. and 124 gr.
Total 150 rounds, and it was 100% reliable.
It feels great in the hand, very comfortable to shoot, and mild shooting. Accuracy at 7 yards was excellent.
My only complaint is the trigger pull. Mine is pretty stiff, about 7.5 lbs. and it feels gritty. Hopefully it will smooth out with more shooting.
I love the size, very thin and light weight. I haven't got a holster yet, but this will make a great ccw. And I like that I can carry it cocked and locked. I'm never comfortable carrying an auto without a safety.
My first impression of this gun is very positive.
 
get some snapcaps and shoot it a few hundred times in both DA and SA mode, I did this and the trigger is just superb.
 
My only complaint is the trigger pull. Mine is pretty stiff, about 7.5 lbs. and it feels gritty. Hopefully it will smooth out with more shooting.
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Are you referring to the SA pull or the DA pull? The SA pull in mine is great for a striker trigger. Probably the best striker trigger out there, or close to it. If yours feel like that in SA, it sounds like there's a burr in there or something, because that's not normal.
 
And I like that I can carry it cocked and locked.
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FYI "cocked and locked" refers to guns with external hammers and safeties, most notably the 1911.
 
FYI "cocked and locked" refers to guns with external hammers and safeties, most notably the 1911.
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When you rack the slide of the 709, the striker is fully cocked. While the manual safety blocks the trigger and not the hammer and sear as in a 1911, I still think it's 100% accurate to call carrying the 709 with one in the tube and the safety on "cocked and locked."
 
Are you referring to the SA pull or the DA pull? The SA pull in mine is great for a striker trigger. Probably the best striker trigger out there, or close to it. If yours feel like that in SA, it sounds like there's a burr in there or something, because that's not normal.
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I'm referring to the single action pull. It measures 7.5 on my RCBS trigger pull scale, and it is gritty feeling.

FYI "cocked and locked" refers to guns with external hammers and safeties, most notably the 1911.
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Cocked and locked, or not, call it whatever you want, I'm more comfortable carrying an auto pistol with a safety.
 
how is that safety btw? it doesn't decock does it?

easy to deactivate? b/c it looks kind of slim to me
 
No, it doesn't decock, but it's very easy to deactivate.
It's a simple two position safety lever, up is on, down is off. And you can't rack the slide with the safety on.
Also, there is no magazine disconnect on this gun. It will still fire without the mag.
 
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