TC Venture won't shoot MOA as guaranteed

[LJ-MosinFreak-Buck]

Maybe because of the fact that you are using handloads. Call T/C. Get the info for the type of ammunition said rifle was tested with, and use that. If it groups with that, you're golden, and feel free to experiment with hand loads after that. If you don't group properly, then call them back and tell them that their rifle isn't performing as advertised. If they're as decent as they should be, they'll make it right. Plain. And. Simple.

 

[VAhuntr]

As the others have said your rifle should have came with a test target....at least my Icon did. It gave a date, an employee ID # that performed the test, and what type of ammo was used during the test. FWIW, my Icon performs as advertised. I also had a problem with the 1st Icon I bought but T/C replaced the rifle and did so in a very timely and efficient manner, IMO.

 

[Bull Nutria]

mine did not come with a target or any info about what type of ammo it would shoot 1 moa with. does anyone know what ammo they use to test the Venture?

Bull

 

[VAhuntr]

It looks like I may be mistaken about the Venture being sent with a test target like the Icon is. I would call T/C and speak to them. I had my best luck contacting them at 8 AM EST when they first opened.

www.tcarms.com/technology/minute_of_angle.php

 

[Gtscotty]

Just a thought, but do you keep your OAL consistent? Also, have you played with different OALs for the particular loads that seem to shoot better than the rest? I have a 30-06 that would consistently shoot ~1.5" 5-shot groups with a particular combo of IMR4350 and 165gr sst. Once I started playing with OAL, I found a seating depth that dropped the average groups to ~1" with many coming in well under that. Might be worth a try.

 

[JDGray]

Has anyone else had better luck with flat base bullets

My understanding is that boat tail bullets are for loooooongrange, and that flat base bullets will perform better up close.

 

[Grumulkin]

Boat tail bullets have a better ballistic coefficient so are better for long range shooting but that doesn't mean they'll not perform at close range. Flat based bullets may perform well at close range and, since for a given weight are shorter than a boat tailed bullet, are easier to stabilize with slower twist rate barrels.

 

[P-32]

You didn't say what primer you are using either. It does make a difference! I had a Winny feather weight in 06 I spent a lot of time with which I could not get to group.Turns out the scope was playing a large part of the difficulty. Afer changing from a Bushnell to a Lepould with better scope rings, my 5 shot groups srank down to sub moa. I bragged about the group size this rifle could shoot but I was out of ammo. I reloaded with the bullet and powder but found I was out of CCI primers so I used Winchesters. This was a mistake and the group opened up to 1 1/2 moa. I also found how far away you seat the bullet from the lands an make a huge difference. I also use Winchester brass for my feather weight. Mixing brass won't work either.

The point being unless you are shooting what the manf. shot to get a small group size and then duplicating the group size blindly and not knowing what was used can be a pita.

Once I find what the tifle likes It takes a lot for me to change bullet, powder and primer, and even case manf.

I would bet if you could find a box of Federal Gold match your rifle would shoot better. I have not found a gun in good condition that would not shoot it better than about any thing else. Good luck

 

[Germster]

Why the hell do you need to shoot better than 1.5 inch groups with a 7mm rifle? What are you going to shoot? Butterflies? I'd be overjoyed if my hunting rifle shot 1.5 inch groups. I'd brag about it with my hunting buddies over the campfire and bourbon.

Any hunting rifle that shoots 1.5 inch groups is a great shooting rifle. If you want a target rifle and are going to shoot in competitionthen you need to get a target rifle. A TC is not a target rifle. We used to be happy with any hunting rifle that grouped 4".

You have a fine rifle thar. On a good day you'll probably shoot MOA anyway. Not that it matters. Our eyes, the wind, heat and parallax have something to do with groups. Not to mention bullet type, load, case, primer and all of the other stuff. Don't waste your time trying to squeeze MOA out of a hunting rifle. Your shoot'n iron is just fine. Better than most.

 

[ugaarguy]

Germster, to quote the link listed above:

3 shot group in 1" or less at 100 yards, T/C Venture will shoot MOA groups guaranteed. If not completely satisfied T/C will certify MOA accuracy or replace with a new Venture.

If the Venture wasn't guaranteed to shoot MOA, I'd agree with you about being happy with 1.5 MOA groups. But, the Venture has the 1 MOA guarantee. I also agree with the other posters about branching out & trying different bullet weights, calling T/C for recommended factory ammo, etc.