Teacher accidentally brings loaded gun to school (*cough* IDIOT *cough*)

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Tuesday, March 04, 2003






SHALER AREA: Teacher's gun a 'mistake'

Shaler Police Chief Jeff Gally said yesterday that a Shaler Area School District teacher made an honest mistake and unwittingly brought a loaded handgun to school in a gym bag.

Nevertheless, Gally said, in all likelihood a misdemeanor charge of possessing a weapon on school property will be filed later this week.

Gally said teacher Anthony Sarkis had used a gym bag to transport his .380-caliber semiautomatic handgun to a range for target practice. He forgot to take the gun out before putting books in the bag and carrying it to school.

Gally said Sarkis has been cooperative and is "very upset" about the incident. He has a valid permit to carry the weapon.


http://www.post-gazette.com/neigh_north/20030304nburbs0304p9.asp
 
I went to the link to see what state this happened in. (PA) The electronic news rag made this teacher/gun story a higher priority than article about a passenger KILLED due to drunk driver. :fire:
 
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Thats pretty irresponsible. He know better than that as a teacher. What if the kids have gotten ahold of his .380!! He should always have his firearms secured. He's very lucky that his lapse of better judgement was not a cause of someone getting hurt.
 
I'm afraid of this happening myself. I always tend to forget something in my bags--gun, ammo, sometimes I almost drive home with the holster still on :eek:
 
SKunk-
I have so many bags that I'd be worry about leaving a peice in a bag and bringing it to the office. So I have 2 bags for guns and thats it. One is designated "Tactical Black"


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Being very close to this story (my fiance works there and we know him) I have mixed emotions. It was extremely stupid of him to leave it in his bag. The news coverage was worse though, completely sensationalized when they had very little solid info to report (Alan Jennings had the channel 11 story I saw). Just soundbite after soundbite of kids saying how they are scared to go to school now, not one conceding it could have been an honest mistake. Apparently he left the bag in the teachers' lounge after school when he went down to the gym to work out. Another teacher opened the bag to see whose it was and saw the gun and some form of ID. I know it was extremely stupid to do, but maybe the other teacher could have gave him some benefit of the doubt and asked him about it before turning him in.
 
This sounds like one of those "no harm - no foul" incidents that everyone is makeing too much to do about. The principal should have just told him to take it home and not do it again. The notion that he broke the law proves that the law is stupid.
 
@Matt

I was a student in Special Education, later a teacher within Special Education. There's a lot of teachers that are plain stupid -- in addition to being biased, insensitve and ignorant. It's bad enough they teach the learning disabled -- I wouldn't want them carrying guns in school.:scrutiny:
 
Flash-forward: Teacher accidentally carries book "In the Gravest Extreme" to school. "Someone could have found that book, read it, and gone out and got killed", one outraged student said.

Probably won't happen. Future students will not be able to read.
 
@Matt
I was a student in Special Education, later a teacher within Special Education. There's a lot of teachers that are plain stupid -- in addition to being biased, insensitve and ignorant. It's bad enough they teach the learning disabled -- I wouldn't want them carrying guns in school.



This applies to people outside the teaching profession as well. Being smart isn't any kind of prereq for having a CCW permit.
 
Here in Utah that is legal if the school is funded with public money. The thing that chaps me is that he let other people find out about it.

Concealed means concealed. If you don't have a permit, don't put a gun in something that gets taken places.

Simple.
 
Yeah, you are right, but he apparently forgot it was in his bag. Two other teachers opened his bag, which was shut, and looked in it and found the gun.
 
I think all teachers should be allowed to carry guns at school. If we can't trust teachers with firearms, why are we trusting them to educate our children?
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What makes you think I trust all teachers? Between the ones that are molesting the kids and the spineless liberal pantiewastes that are telling soldier's kids that anyone supporting Pres. Bush is immoral, who's to be trusted?:barf:
 
in all likelihood a misdemeanor charge of possessing a weapon on school property will be filed later this week
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Isn't this a felony in some states?

GT
 
I thought the "no guns near schools" law was a federal law and applied the same to all states. Since this happened I've been trying to find out all the laws but it is a fairly frustrating endeavor.
 
The Federal school zone exclusion was thrown out as un-Constitutional, in a suit against the Brady Bill. I want to say Sherrif Mack's suit, but I'm not 100% sure.
 
Blades67,
I am a teacher. So which are you calling me: a child molester or a "spineless liberal pantiewaste"? I suggest you check your target(s) before you shoot your mouth off.
I am a gun owner, CCL holder, and an RKBA activist with the VCDL. Teachers also have the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. There's no clause in the second amendment which says "except teachers". We don't need your permission or anyone else's to excersize our rights.
 
In April, 1995 the Federal Firearm Free School Zone Act of 1990 was struck down as Un-constitutional by the Supreme Court (U.S. v Lopez).

Congress promptly passed the Federal Firearm Free School Zone Act of 1996. The 1996 act has not been challenged in court because it is seldom enforced.

State laws govern carry at schools and vary widely.
 
I'm not suggesting that teachers don't have a right to bear arms, but keep them at home, not in your lunch box. I'm saying that I wouldn't want some John Silber elitist snob teaching my kids, much less bringing handguns into the schools. I've met some wonderful teachers as an LD student, and yes I know there are some great people out there in education. I've been fortunate to have a few and I remember each and every one by name. But I also had the bad luck to meet some true horror stories that made my hair stand on end. How the Christ did these people get hired, and why are teaching children with special needs if they don't like these kids to begin with? If the students' self-esteem wasn't low enough already, do they really need to be condesended to by these jerks? Bottom line is it's school -- not your home on the range. :scrutiny: Just because someone is a teacher doesn't make them any better than a construction worker or the guy pumping your gas in the morning. I don't trust people simply because of their profession. I trust them because they've earned it. If someone's "forgetting" they have a gun in their bag, they're not playing with a full deck. What if another student had found it first and used it on another classmate?
 
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