Testing pistols - ammunition woes and recommendations

[BHP9]

I think that the more one shoots accurately the more accurately one shoots. Am I wrong on this?

Partially:

You could go out to the range and shoot a handgun with a bent barrel and as long as you could hit the target with basketball size groups you could evenetually become a world class shot. Sound rididculous. Its not. What you would be learning would be the basics. Muscle control, hand eye coordination, breath control, reading the wind, reading mirage, learning to cocentrate totally on the task at hand putting all of your everday problems completely out of your mind. You would also be learning to stay calm under stress and control your emotions despite shooting that is going on all around you.

When you have learned all this someone could then put a very accurate pistol and ammo in your hands and since you could already shoot very good groups with a junk pistol and junk ammo the accurate handgun and the accurate ammo would be a piece of cake. In other words your confidence level although already very high would be given a super boost to make you feel almost invincible. Believe me, I have tried this and it works like a charm.

 

[BevrFevr]

Ah now I understand completely!

Shooting inacurrate ammo leads to feeling almost invincible.

And Here I thought the trick was to avoid Kryptonite!

-bevr

 

[Handy]

Bevr,

I don't really understand your posts. This thread started about finding good loads for accurate shooting. It has changed into a discussion of accurate inexpensive loads. No one has suggested that practicing with what would be termed "inaccurate ammo" is a good idea.

The only suggestion that remotely matches your posts is the idea that match grade ammo isn't necessary for accurate practice. An "accurate" load (2.5" at 25m) is going to serve almost as well as a "match" load (1.5" at 25m) will. This is completely different than suggesting that someone take that 1.5" shooter and practice with ammo that groups at 6", and is not what anyone here seems to be suggesting.


What are you recommending?

 

[BevrFevr]

Handy

From post #1

"Anyone see any accuracy issues with different bullet weights in individual pistols?"


my response

"I shoot 9mm and .357mag mostly.

My experience is that "almost" any 9mm will shoot "almost" any 124gr bullet better than 115 or 147. There are always exceptions."


you made this point

"It's pointless to carry accurate ammo and practice with inaccurate ammo."


and I concured by saying

"And for the thought of practicing with less accurate ammo? What is it you are practicing exactly? Making the gun go bang?"


After we made these points BHP9 responded with

"I think I will have to disagree with everyone who says that it is not a good idea to practice with less than super accurate ammo and here is why.... "

and

"The idea of practice is to become more proficient. To practice much will cost a lot of money. To become more proficient has no connection whatsoever with accurate expensive ammo v/s less expensive less accurate ammo...."

To which I replied

"I just don't see how shooting inaccurate ammo makes anyone a better shot...."


BHP9 replied

"Partially:..."

And in response to your final post I would have to say that I may be the only one on this entire thread that replied to the question posed at the end of the original post.
You however have taken the thread to new areas. I have tried here to help you follow my train of thought.
I cannot help you with your own however.

Hope this helps clear some things up for you.

-bevr

 

[Al Thompson]

 

[BevrFevr]

-b

 

[WESHOOT2]

IT'S ALL PERSONAL

Advice: Start at the BOTTOM of the ammo price ladder and work UPWARD in price until you reach YOUR desired level of ammo performance.

And never never never sacrifice reliability for ANY other performance indicator; first, it MUST go 'bang'.

Oh, except for gun-games with 'do-overs'
(Don't they call those "alibi"?)