Texas: Open vs concealed carry

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Elza

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Can anyone explain why Texas (or any other state) will allow concealed carry but prohibits open carry? I see nothing wrong with advertising the fact. Anyone that messes with an obviously armed person would have to be mentally or chemically impaired. Concealed makes it a guessing game with the odds in favor of the bad guy. Or did I just answer my own question?
 
On the other hand, the surprise shooter has his or her first target picked out.
It goes either way.

Last, if you refer school shooting, I doubt you could get open carry there. Might get concealed.
 
Cops never get shot at first, they carry openly. Easier to get to an openly carried firearm.

I say it should be up to the person carrying the firearm. Alaska/Vermont style would be the Constitutional choice.
 
Jimmy, I may be incorrect but I believe that you are wrong. It is my understanding that the great state of Texas banned all public carry of handguns back in the 1890's. It remained (spelling sorry) this way until like 91 or 92 something like that after the Luby's incident and others convinced the state legislature to allow concealed carry. However a lot of people I think in the state of Texas would like to see open carry come back. You arnt allowed to "print" or anything when concealed carrying so you have to be very careful.
 
Huh?

Oddly enough, Texas allowed open carry until they began the concealed carry licensing.

As an older native Texan, I can never remember when carrying a handgun in public, open or concealed, was legal (unless you were a LEO of course). I believe it was 1995 when our concealed carry law was enacted.
 
Oddly enough, Texas allowed open carry until they began the concealed carry licensing.

No they didn't. The last time open carry of a handgun was legal in Texas when not on your own property was sometime during Reconstruction.
 
Wow. Thank you, all 5 of you, for correcting me. God help you if you're ever wrong, huh?
 
Cops never get shot at first, they carry openly. Easier to get to an openly carried firearm.

Exactly my thoughts. Not to mention body builders and other assorted tough guy types rarely get targeted.

A criminal would rather go after a group of sheep than a group that has someone who is obviously armed.

I like to carry open for several reasons. One is that it exposes the public to a gun. They see a gun on the hip of someone who is not LE, but who is courteous and well groomed. Maybe their opinion of gunowners is changed momentarily. My little public relations campaign.
 
Open Carry in Texas.

No open carry for Texans. Yet. It's on the TSRA lobby list. Texas is fairly repressive in its laws. You would be surprised at what IS law and what get proposed every year.

The only time my Land Cruiser was ever keyed was on the UT Austin campus when I was there for a lecture. It had a TSRA and NRA sticker on it. They defaced those as well so I wouldn't miss their point. The left has a lot of traction down here, as they do everywhere.

It's my opinion that when some security disaster like the VT mass murder happens, the TSRA ought to push HARD to have its bills voted on the next week. Gun control killed those kids. Open carry would keep that kind of stuff from ever happening again.

I would think that open carry on sacred holidays...Christmas, Halloween, Thanksgiving, San Jacinto Day, Texas Independence Day, Juan Seguin's birthday, Fall of the Alamo, the anniversary of the crash of the Decatur Spaceman, the Davidian burn day, would be appropriate.

Guns: The ultimate fashion accessory. I'd hate to think I put a push-button safety on my Standard Products M1 for nothing!

There is certainly no good reason NOT to have open carry in any society that advertises itself as "free" but we are a long way from there right now.
 
The TSRA also works in small steps from what I have seen. I doubt they will take up open carry for a while unless it appears there is support for it outside the normal gunny types. They have made good progress lately, but since the Texas Legislature only meets every two years, it takes time.

IMHO, a good start would be to clarify open carry or public carry for rifles and shotguns.
 
Cops never get shot at first, they carry openly. Easier to get to an openly carried firearm.
I wouldn't say never, it is just not common.

Personally, I would prefer concealed carry, but it would be nice not to worry about my shirt getting blown up.
 
The whole point of concealed carry is that it sows uncertainty in the heart of perpetrators, so it's like random reinforcement for good behavior. With an effective concealed carry law open carry becomes rather irrelevant. Where concealed carry is clearly banned, however, such as in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol open carry can serve a purpose because most crimes are committed outside the bar. Open carry is like serving notice.
 
Open carry gets it, well, out in the open. Right now the sheeple only see a gun when Court TV is quoting the Dallas SWAT team as being "outgunned" by thugs with SKS rifles and that super powerful "Thirty caliber round"--it'd do 'em some good to see "normal" folks in their suit and ties with a hog leg strapped on.

"I thought only police could own pistols?" GEEZ, don't get ALL your facts from Rosie and cartoons.:p
 
In all of your long-winded posts, not a one of you answered the OP's question.

Rick
 
Not a hard and fast rule, but generally I see open carry as suited to casual dress, concealed carry to formal dress. All the other practical issues are non-issues to me.

Politically speaking, out of sight is out of mind. In a large geographical area where many folk are born, live and die - out of sight and out of mind often becomes a sort of de facto truth. You would be surprized how many people here in Texas do not know that there are permits available to carry concealed handguns, that one can carry one anyway under particular circumstances, that long guns can be carried in vehicles and other places etc etc.

In places where it is quite legal to carry handguns openly - and people exercize the practice often - it has little chance of going away. Getting it introduced - or reintroduced after a lapse of over 100 years - is far more difficult.

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Elza, your answer is politics, but you probably already knew that.

In the mid-90s Texas sought to emulate the Florida reform which proscribed open carry. Part of the reform package was that the firearm was to remain concealed so as not to terrify the citizenry and concealment was sold as an advantage since the bad hombres wouldn't know who had a pistola.

Thus, we now have eleven million threads about "printing" in Texas.:scrutiny:

Living in a state where 1. we've been carrying for generations, 2. it does not matter how we carry, I find it all politically very humorous. At first the antis whined about you cowboys carrying guns on your hip. In response, y'all said, fine, we'll conceal them. Then the antis whined about "hidden guns". Now y'all say "we want to uncover and be legal" and the antis whimper about "you cowboys."

It seems the antis can never be happy.:D

Elza, get in the fight down there. While I started going to Texas in '95 conditions were miserable, no carrying at all. When the reforms went into effect, it was still horrible, but it got better every year. Now when I go down there there are very few signs and Texas honors more and more states, even Indiana which has no training requirement and where one can carry at 18.

While there are still problems with Texas carry (e.g. the no guns in bars law is simply moronic) and it is very far from the pro-gun culture up here, it is getting better and that's what we all want.:)
 
Why the obsession with printing?
It is not illegal to print. It is illegal to intentionally not conceal the firearm. Most all concealed holsters will print some in a pocket or bending over.
 
I see nothing wrong with advertising the fact.
But... guns are scary!

I'd love open carry here. El Paso Saddlery makes some beautiful rigs... but you've got to keep 'em hidden away. It'd be very nice to open carry on those hot summer days - when you really don't feel like wearing something to cover the gun.
 
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