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I have been known to gripe about some police behaviors, policies, etc. However, I feel compelled to share this experience.

I stopped to push a stalled car out of a busy intersection yesterday. A police officer who stopped at the light rolled down his window and yelled at us to wait for him to get his car behind us (we were in the turning lane). Then he parked his squad car behind us with flashing lights, jumped out in the rain, instructed other traffic to stop, and HELPED ME PUSH THE CAR!

When he jumped out I informed him I was a CCL holder and was carrying. He thanked me for telling him before he went to talk to the driver. Afterword he thanked me again (twice) for informing him of my CCW. He also stuck around to make sure the driver had what he needed. The driver looked like an ordinary joe, black with not much money, etc. and he was treated with total respect.

That's one heck of a guy.
 
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My guess is that the policeman was probably what would be classified as a mature man with much experience both on the job and off.
 
I've had both extememly good and horribly bad experiences with Peace Officers. Just as in all segments of society, there exist jerks and gentlemen. Thanks for sharing a good story. I'm not sure its appropiate for L&P, but with all the anti-cop commentary we've seen in L&P the past several months, I'm not locking it. Art can if he wants, but I'm going to leave it open in an attempt at "balance".
 
One experience like that stands out in my mind:

Years ago my son (about 14 years old at the time) and I participated in the Colorado State Fair Parade with a couple of my old John Deeres with the rest of our antique iron group. After the parade, we started heading home with the tractors and my son had to cross three lanes of traffic to get going eastbound on a four lane street.

He had that deer in the headlights look when one of our local cops stopped his cruiser, got out, and stopped ALL four lanes of traffic until my son got safely across. :cool:

Then we continued on our merry (11 MPH) trip home.
 
that is great the that cop jumped out to help, in the rain no less. there are some good cops out there, I happen to actually know a few.

None the less, why did you feel compelled to tell him you were a CCL holder and armed???
If you are in the supermarket line with a gallon of milk and loaf of bread, and a cop gets in line behind you...do you inform him too?

Sorry if i'm messin up your post about good cops.

Andy
 
That's one heck of a guy.
I think you'll find that 99.99% of LEO's are just like that one. Just like anything else in life, it's the other 0.01% that get most of the publicity and 'net venting. Or so I've found in my 52 years on the planet.
 
Great story... glad to hear about a true "peace officer". :)

I think you'll find that 99.99% of LEO's are just like that one. Just like anything else in life, it's the other 0.01% that get most of the publicity and 'net venting. Or so I've found in my 52 years on the planet.

Probably true, like all the other garbage spewed by the media. Only 40% of violent crimes are committed w/guns, but that's all that makes the news. A knife or fists aren't newsworthy anymore these days, and niether are good cops.

I personally like the LEOs in my city. They've been great in every interaction I've had with them. The LEOs in the city I grew up in, however, are a different story.

It's easy to get caught up in flaming the bad cops we see reported on the news. Just like it's easy to flame the idiot gun abusers who make us all look bad. L&P is a heated place by its very nature, but I love it. It keeps me informed. You just need waders on to be able to make it through some of the BS in the world. :D
 
None the less, why did you feel compelled to tell him you were a CCL holder and armed???
If you are in the supermarket line with a gallon of milk and loaf of bread, and a cop gets in line behind you...do you inform him too?

I was sorta thinking the same thing. Here in MO we have no duty to inform leo unless we are asked. Lotsa times I like to ccw my way up to a cop and sorta stand around near them and smile.

So far, no problemo. :D
 
Good cop there, totally living up to the 'public servant' moniker. I happen to think that the other guy helping to push the car was being one heck of a guy as well.
 
"If you are in the supermarket line with a gallon of milk and loaf of bread, and a cop gets in line behind you...do you inform him too? "

I might if I thought my jacket was going to ride up when I bent over to push the grocery cart.

How's that? Happy now? :)

John
 
I don;t see anything wrong with informing the cop that he had a ccw. In some states it is required, but even so, with all that pushing there is a chance that your jacket could shift and expose your pistol. I (and I think the cop too) would rather tell the cop about my ccw than have him find out by accident.

Telling a cop about a CCW shouldn't raise any suspicion, but having him find one that you are trying to hide will for sure. In my state I am only required show my permit when a cop asks to see it, but I would still probably inform the cop in this situation.
 
Let's see...

Grand Father --> Civillian and Military Police officer.
Wife's Uncle --> Police officer.
Old neighbor --> Police officer.
Parents neighbors --> Police officers.

Could probably list a bunch more... overall some pretty good folks :D
 
Afterword he thanked me again (twice) for informing him of my CCW.

Cool. :cool:

Most cops I've come across have been very, very cool. Honest and good. Sadly, there's always the few whose badges went straight to their heads.
 
No prob....

"Hey, thanks for helping... Just so you know, in case anything makes a clanking noise while we're engaged in this strenuous physical labor, I've got a carry permit. Think we can get him to take his foot off the brake? It is off the brake?
 
i'd tell him too

but i'm past the age where i get some vicarious thrills. i try the old golden rule if i was him i'd appreciate him telling me and for some reason don't have my manhood threatened when i behave like a grownup in adult company. too old to have anything to prove anymore. but i do remember what it feels like to be young. vaguely
 
its nice when police act like how the publicity photos show them, irish police are always miserable, they act as if they have it so bad with the hours they work and say their job is too dangerous even though american police have to carry guns because any one could have a gun.

our police wouldnt last five minutes over there.
 
I've had many bad experiences with police officers, NONE that were my fault or I'm sure I'd have a record. However, I've had COUNTLESS good experiences with them. I believe it's like BFK said. Some jerks like with every other profession, but most are great guys. I will say this, that most of the good experiences were from the more mature in age, say over 35 and the majority of the bad were from very young officers. That tells me they still have room to grow and become the decent and hardworking fellows that, for the most part, we deal with on a daily basis.
 
why tell?

None the less, why did you feel compelled to tell him you were a CCL holder and armed???
If you are in the supermarket line with a gallon of milk and loaf of bread, and a cop gets in line behind you...do you inform him too?

Sorry if i'm messin up your post about good cops.

Andy

In Texas, as far as I know, we're supposed to tell an officer whenever we interact with them.

I don't have the rule memorized. When I doubt I err on the cautious side. The officer seemed to appreciate it.

It's a good question, Andy. I would prefer that we never had to disclose and never needed a permit. That's just not the way it is.
 
i've seen a few of those.. i can fit them on my fingers... that rare

one time one was changing the tire for some women on the side of the interstate.. it was 100 out and you can see the guy was going to need to hit the lockers after that. yet he was changing it while could have kept on going :)
 
As a forment police officer, Id like to add my $.02.

First of all, in my exprience, which isnt as much as many but more than most, the kind of officers you see at roadblocks, checkpoints and other invasive police activities are most often volunteers...meaning they volunteered for that duty. More often than not, at least locally, they are being payed overtime and that overtime is subsidized by the federal government.

In my simple mind, the cop that helped the guy push the car out of the street has somehow avoided being brainwashed into the thinking the "war on drugs" is working and citizens shouldnt have guns. This guy wanted to be a cop because we really wanted to help society be a better place (which is why, I would estimate 99% of cops wnat to be cops), and remebered how to do it.

In my fantasy world, most cops, even ones in metro area, are of this type...you dont know about them because you hardly every have contact with them. They are the ones that rush to the old ladies(maybe your grandmother) house in the middle of the night because the front door is making noises it shouldnt. They dont rush to the sound of idiots shooting and selling drugs to other idiots. They realize that society will take care of its self in due time, in the meantime, they should take care to make society better.

In my experience, there are and will always be the Nazis of police work. They squeak loudly and theyre pictures are in the papers for the BIG DRUG BUST.
The comforting thing for me is locally 85% of our police force are of the other sort, that just want to help. They want to hold the hand of the little boy who has lost his dog, the want to comort the widow in the middle of the night becuase her husband wasnt there to check out the "bump" in the night, they want to steet the youth the could just as easily go down the wrong path, into the right one, they want to try and make the roads safe for the majority without being offensive and over bearing. They keep theyre cars clean, and they look sharp when they are serving to help society. You wont see these guys and girls and roadblocks unless they are ordered...because they know its wrong. They will help you change your tire in the rain.

One day, this country will change and hopefully when the big change comes...they will begin hiring "peace officers" again instead of "police officers" We can police ourselves thankyou.

END OF RANT.

Oh yeah, and I know what the experts of concealed carry advise of "us" to do when contacting a cop. If it were me, I would keep my mouth shut about having a gun unless asked. I made the mistake of blabbing about having a gun on me while I was stopped for speeding out of town. I had a Sig p229 pointed at my head until back up got there....again...I knew to just keep my mouth shut as I didnt really want to die...what with dirty underwear on and all. A cooler head arrived, and after being jerked out of the car, frisked and my identity confirmed (I was a cop at the time) I was patted on the rear and sent on my merry way. Ill just keep my mouth shut, and cross the bridge when I come to it from now on. There are cops out there who think people who carry guns do it to kill cops and other drug dealers. Again, Im glad thats not the majority, my luck running into aggressive minority is high it seems....so I just keep my yap shut.

In Indiana, I know its different everywhere, we cant carry any handgun outside of our homes without a permit, whether it be a personal protection or hunting/target permit. I know there are states the only require you have a permit if you plan to conceal it. If it werent concealed, I guess that there wouldnt be much explaining, it would be out the for God and everyone to see...anyhow.
 
There are certainly nice cops in every department, but around here at least it seems to be more by agency.

I have seen the local sheriff's police helping someone out by pushing a car off to the side on any number of occasions. One time I saw one pushing a car to the side in a driving rain.

Can't say that I have ever seen one of the local city departments or ISP do so.
 
My exposure to police officers has been mostly positive. I ride motorcycles with several on weekends & you'd never know who was who.
I'd have trouble not copping an attitude with a public that was normally not glad to see me & answered a relevent question with "I rather not discuss my personal life with you" (from a snotty kid, that would tick me off).
Yes we all have rights, but a little courtesy cost nothing & rudeness can :neener:
 
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If I am in a situation where there is a good chance of breaking concealment, you bet I would inform the officer!
 
Thank you for posting your story! I was a LEO for 31 years, and assisted almost a countless number of stranded motorists....but rarely related those incidents to other, for it was just a part of the job!

One of my good friends, a fellow officer, used his police vehicle as a "barricade" while assisting a stranded motorist on a busy freeway several years ago. A drunk driver plowed into the police vehicle, and my friend was pinned between the front bumper and the rear bumper of the stalled vehicle, resulting in an instantaneous loss of both of his legs! Even that horrendous event never stopped me from assisting a stranded motorist....just made me a bit more cautious when I was in "harms way"!

I was ALMOST called upon to deliver a baby in the back seat of a car! I probably could have done it, for I was in the delivery room when my twins were born, but....thank goodness for the fire department Paramedics, who arrived and transported the lady to the hospital! That was on Christmas eve of 1979, and it made that Christmas a very special one for me!
 
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