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The 642 club

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I joined the '42 club today. Bought a nice blued 442 (same as 642 but blued instead of Stainless) and I am using Gold Dot 135gr +P. I intend it to replaced my Kel-Tec P3AT as a pocket gun. It will serve as a backup to my Glock 23 or Kimber Custom Classic 1911 ; or as a primary gun when the big boys just can't go. Paid 434 NIB OTD.
 
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I have Lasermax grips NIB for sale that fit 642 with or without internal lock (no hammer) they feature choice of steady or pulsed beam with dual activation switches.Auto off after 20 minutes.I have a set on my 642 and love 'em. $175 shipped.Chuck.
 
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I'm [strike]probably[/strike] about to join the club.

fair enough.

So, I haven't been in the market for a revolver in a little while.

What should I expect to spend on a 642. What's the lower end, and the higher end of pricing for them? I'll try looking for a good deal. I remember a place where I bought my 340PD (since sold) for $693.
 
ok. Bought a 642 brand new for $400.

I'm set for my snubby.

Seems Midway is having a sale on Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel ammo. I'll probably buy a couple boxes (2 or 3) so I have at least one for defensive use, and can try a box or two at the range to double check that there is no jumping the crimp going on.
 
hmp32 - Welcome to the 642 Club. You made a good choice to replace the .380, I'll bet the "big boys" find they will be spending more time at home.

.cheese. - Welcome, You did good. The $400.00 is about right for my area too. The Gold Dot's will work well, you should not have any "jump" problems. All of the crimp problems I am aware of are from shooting hot loads in the Sc and Ti lightweights.
 
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jt1 -- Thanks. I was convinced after taking LFI-1 at FAS 2 weeks ago. Massad Ayoob. Now, if someone could suggest some off-hand techniques so that i don't kill the web of my left hand, I am open to suggestions. I was only able to get 3 round of Blazer Brass 125gr before I could fire the 442 anymore.
 
hmp32 - first off just to double check, the 442 is the same as a 642, just anodized right? In other words, same grip and same weight right?

Sounds like you're having the problem I was having with my 340PD when using full house .357 magnum loads.

Here's what I found helped:

1) When first shooting a light j-frame, the skin is soft in that area. As you shoot it more and practice more, the skin there hardens up a little bit and it becomes considerably more comfortable to shoot.

2) You want the spine of the grip to follow the natural shape of your palm when gripping it so that you get the most support.

3) Hold it tight enough that it doesn't move a lot when you fire it. For using two hands, try using the fingers of your left hand (or non-dominant hand) to hold the fingers of your right (or dominant) hand tight, and hold down your thumb.

You're basically trying to minimize movement. Remember, with a j-frame, the majority of the energy from shooting gets transferred to you. Try to work your grip and wrist/arm angle so that you maximize the energy transferred to your arm and so that the gun doesn't move much.

These are the tips I picked up from others that worked for me with the 340PD. Also, if you're going to practice extensively, you might want to use a shooting glove. It just makes it more enjoyable for extended shooting.

Unfortunately, shooting a j-frame is never as comfortable or easy as shooting a semi-auto. That's one of the reasons I initially switched 100% to semi-autos.

I hope this helps. I'm sure others will have more and better advice.
 
I was only able to get 3 round of Blazer Brass 125gr before I could fire the 442 anymore.
Hmp, in addition to .cheese.'s suggestions above, I suggest trying rnds with heavier bullets until you get used to the little mule.

Try some 135 or 158 gr. Paradoxically, heavier bullets are easier to handle than 125 gr.
 
fair enough. Photo came out looking terrible, but oh well.

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No disassembly.
No field stripping.

I just unloaded it,
brushed the barrel and cylinder,
then drug a few patches
through all the bores.

Reloaded.
Good to go.

No springs;
no disassembly.

10 minutes,
& I was done.

RR: Revolvers Rule

+1 Yes they do. :D Unfortunately today I took a friend from out of town to the range and shot both AR's, M1A, 1911, Glock 26 & 19 and the 442. We had a Blast...no pun intended..well maybe a little. He actually shot the handguns best with the little snubby.:p

I'ma bad boy put them away without a cleaning...just enough time to shower & get ready to go out with friends for dinner. Bet you can guess what I'll be doing tomorrow. :)
 
Woohoo. Went to the range today and tried out my CS40 from a couple pages ago. I LOVE THIS GUN. Distance between sights is considerably longer than my 642 which made shooting it much easier.. Recoil feels softer or comparable to the 642 - which surprised me... Put about 150 through the 642, 100 through the CS40, 250 through my beretta 96, 250 through my 659 9mm and ~700 .22's through my buckmark and rem 597. Shooting guns is fun stuff. I'm going to start carrying the cs40 any time i can - the 642 is still going to take primary duty on particularly hot days for pocket carry in shorts.

I tried some georgia arms cowboy load - 125gr @ only 700fps - very soft and fun to shoot in the 642. I had one round not ignite due to a light strike today, and a second round 'delay' on firing - click....BANG instead of clickBANG. I'm hoping it's just particularly crappy primers on the georgia arms ammo, but i did just get my 642 back from the smith with a lightened trigger so i am nervous. That happened about 10 rounds in and the remaining 140 were flawless...so i'm going to go out with 200 winchester white box tommorrow to make sure there are no problems.
 
I bought a Smith & Wesson M&P Compact and Colt XSE Combat Commander to replace my 642.

When I took my brand new Compact to the range for the first time, I had magazine drop malfunctions. The gun was sent back to the factory for repair.

When I took my brand new Commander home and disassembled it for the first time, I noticed pitting on the frame rails. The gun was sent back to the factory for a new frame.

So after about $1,500 worth of replacements, I still carry my 642 which was perfect right out of the box and I paid less than $400 for it!

Good ol' 642. It's one gun I'll never sell.
 
.cheese. - There's no such thing as a "terrible looking" photo of a 642!

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I bought a Smith & Wesson M&P Compact and Colt XSE Combat Commander to replace my 642.
The statement above speaks volumes.


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Good ol' 642. It's one gun I'll never sell.
Well said, only thing better than a 642 would be two 642's.
 
Hi all. My wife really wants a 642. First Question: What is the "tamest" PRACTICE load for her to start out with? She's shot a heavier long barreled revolver in 38 sp. many years ago...but with a new airweight snubby I don't want to shake her up too much. Second Question: In regards to Self Defense ammo, I've read that the Federal Hydroshock 110+P are excellent performers and milder recoil for SD. Also read here that the Speer 135+P are the best by far. What's the consensus of opinion about the Fed Hydroshock 110+P vs Speer 135+P's for self defense? Thanks in advance for any insight.
 
Dos, welcome. Take a look here http://www.brassfetcher.com/38 Special.html and see what the loads do in balilstic gel. I'd go with the 135 gr GD +Ps over the 110 gr Hydrashocks. However, my load of choice is still the 158gr +P Lead Semi-Wadcutter Hollowpoint (LSWCHP) as loaded by Remington or Winchester, or the old 158 gr+P Federal Nyclad SWCHP when available. I find these rounds to have more of a long push compared to the short snap of the lighter offerings.
 
I tried a box or two of the Fed 110+P 'Low Recoil' loads. They shot okay but I could tell no substantial difference in recoil between them and the 135 Gold Dot Short Barrel load. So...I went with the Gold Dot. 110 just seems awful light to me. I find my 442s recoil to be very manageable but I do shoot lot's of the bigger calibers. Any kind of Cowboy load might be a good starting point for her. I, too, like the 158 loads.
 
Or a 642 and a 442, the latter for black tie occasions

That was my choice. I figure if my wife can have a closet of different color shoes for different outfits...I can have a different color gun for the same. :D
 
thanks ugaarguy for the link and the responses so far. Looks like speer g.d. 135's are the carry rounds. Now just need to find some "cheaper" practice rounds for her. I'm guessing the 148gr wadcutters are less costly and more forgiving in the recoil department? Anybody?
 
I'm guessing the 148gr wadcutters are less costly and more forgiving in the recoil department? Anybody?
Your guess is correct. If you can't find those the standard pressure 158gr LRN loaded by most ammo companies is pretty mild too.
 
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