The Army is getting it right, finally!

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The POTUS swears to uphold the COTUS. The COTUS says we can go to war only when there is a Clear And Present Danger to the US. If the POTUS believed there was a CAPD to the US he had every right to invade Iraq and is in fact required to invade Iraq and destroy that danger. Whether or not he actually believed there was CAPD is another topic but for the sake of this argument I will assume he did. Had he not invaded Iraq he would have failed in his duties as POTUS. So he did invade Iraq. We were looking for WMD or the facilities and/or materials to create/build WMDs. We invaded, destroyed their military infrastructure, found a grand total of one artillery shell with sarin on it, and declared on Jan 12 2005 that we were no longer looking for WMD in Iraq. That was the last day that this war was Constitutional. We should have packed our stuff and got out.

I'm all for pulling an Israeli --we're done here, we're not re-building anything,
we're gone; you do it again, we're back for a repeat. The Iraqis can shake
things out for themselves and it's in their own interest to eventually get
the oil flowing since they have nothing else to sell.

But, you know we have that history of occupying and rebuilding everything
such as Tripoli with 10s of thousands of our troops....oh, wait...we used about
500 marines, broke it and left. Ok, let's see there was that past Republican
president who had us attack Morocco during the Pedicaris Incident....no..no...
we just left there, too, as soon as we were done. In fact there was this
whole big question as to why we were even there in the first place.

Let's use the Army for what the Army was meant to do --breaking things.
The last I checked they weren't UN caseworkers for a global social service
agency.
 
The military has done everything that has been asked of it that can be accomplished by military means. We will continue to accomplish all missions. The solutions for the current problems are political. This calls for a politician, not the military.

But we will go and suport the president because that is what we do. It is in the contract and job description. To complain about it is kind of like being on the swim team and complaining about the water... What did you think it was all about anyway?

And by the way GWB has been Commander in Chief for seven years of the most powerful military in the entire world during five years of continous combat. He might not know how to lead a combat patrol but he knows a heck of a lot more about being COC during war time than anyone else alive I know of. So if you think you know more about it than him about that what are your creds??? I doubt they meet that kind of muster.
 
War Profiteering

In this country goes back to Benjamin Frankiln. In mankind it goes as far back as human history. One may as well try to stop the tides of the Oceans or stop people from going to war. The day after we put the perfect system in place someone will figure out how to use it to their advantage. This is part of human nature.
 
Being apologists for a genocidal asiatic regime & attempting to pin the blame on the USA...that's lovin' America, bay-beee! And its what made this country great!
Being an apologist for a criminal US regime and attempting to pin the blame on US citizens who have a different opinion than you is about as un-American as anyone can get. I happen to believe our country is supposed to have something to do with the moral "high ground." Doesn't sound like something you have much use for.

I take it you have never served in combat?
Nixon wanted me to go wage terror on a bunch of peasants in SE Asia. I told him to go to Hell. I am still an American, and my opinion is worth as much as yours.
 
We break things these days so we can hand out no-bid contracts to friends to fix them. It's a nice, tidy little system.

Pallets of money, follow the money trail to the end of the middle-class.
 
Nixon wanted me to go wage terror on a bunch of peasants in SE Asia. I told him to go to Hell. I am still an American, and my opinion is worth as much as yours.

And my opinion is that cowards and draft dodgers are one and the same thing.
 
If that invalidates his opinion, then it invalidates our current Commander in Chief's.

The current Commander in Chief volunteered for combat, but was not qualified in the right aircraft.

The person who made the post, and whom you're defending, is a self-acknowledged draft dodger and proud of it.
 
The person who made the post, and whom you're defending, is a self-acknowledged draft dodger and proud of it.
To be accurate, I was never actually drafted. But if I had been, I would like to think I would have had the courage to refuse.

Vern, I have nothing against you or any of the other ex-GIs who did what you thought was right and answered the call. I think there is plenty of room for the moral high ground there, and everyone in those days made their call based on the information we had at the time. I just don't appreciate people who chose differently impugning my motives or calling me what they consider disparaging names. I happen to think what I did was right. It doesn't mean I disrespect you for doing what you thought was right.
 
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