The Brady's have hatched a new tactic

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IMHO the biggest probelm is not the Bradys.

The biggest problem is that 80,000,000 gun owners can't agree on the subject.

If they could, and they all wrote letters, and they all voted for pro gun candidates this would not be an issue.

Another problem is that there is more than one issue in this country:
social security
health care
education
poverty
(insert favorite entitlement program here)
war in Iraq
falling dollar
environment
gay rights
minority rights
abortion rights
illegal immigration
out of control spending

The anti gun politicians have figured out that they shoudn't talk about more gun control if they want to get elected. The anti gunmedia has learned not to make it a campaign issue.

Even with many of the people on this board -- people who care enough about guns to come talk on a gun related website -- those other issues are more important than preserving the Second Amendment.
 

I think that would be easily countered with an oleg style image. Does 3 full boxes of ammunition sound like a lot? Show 3 boxes stacked next to a coke can. Non shooters don't really have any idea how fast a shooter can go through a whole case of ammunition.
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Great idea. Maybe 4 boxes of .22, 2 on either side framing a pop can, baseball, or something else to give a sense of scale with the caption....

"A 2000 round arsenal isn't as big as CNN would have you believe."
 
Since I'm not a Construction contractor, I'm sure I don't NEED a 10-cyl F-250 with 4WD, 310 hp, and 425 ft/lb of torque that gets 12 mpg. I should be driving a Smart. I don't NEED a rifle that takes a 30 rd mag either, but since it's purpose is military/para-military the Miller decision says it falls under the purvue of 2A. Let us also note that 7.62X51 NATO has the same ballistics out of a bolt action as from an M-60. Guess they want to ban Ishapore Enfields too. It seems like those who bleat the loudest about the Militia Clause say they aren't anti-gun/anti-2A because they would allow the ownership of "sporting" guns which have limited para-military utility. When confronted by an assailant of any stripe, the situation is anything but "sporting."
 
This is nothing new and actually predates the Brady Bunch. When I was 18, around 1975, the registration of ammunition was required. I was required to show ID and sign a permanant registry to purchase 22lr ammuntion in addition to promise, not to use it in a pistol. The Bradys didn't come around until later, after there was an attempted assissination on Reagan and Jim was shot and suffered permanant damage. but as you can see, they have brought it back, as they have already done before. After the first Brady Bill was passed in 1994, Senator Metzenbuam, former Senator from Ohio, cosponsored Brady II. Brady II, with severe restrictions in other areas, many of which have been achieved, had a provision requiring an "Arsenal License', for possession of more than three guns, or more than fifty rounds of ammunition. In either case, there is normally fifty rounds of ammunition in the average pistol box, and sixty in three boxes of rifle ammunition. Either way, it isn't much. To get back to the license, the Arsenal license would be issued by the federal government and is most similiar to an FFL, meaning the federal government would require the recipient to submit to up to two random searches a year, in order to be granted the license, and pay a reoccuring fee for the "priviledge" as well. While it is doubtful the ATF could have enforced this bill in a meaningful way, the overall coercive nature of the passage would have been devestating to the RKBA. Google Brady II sometimes and read the bill, it lays out quite clearly the goals of the Bradys, even when they deny them.

The overall goal of banning guns with not having to actually ban them is quite clear. They love visualizing about guns being useles without ammunition.
 
It’s also frustrating that when a UPS employee raised concerns on September 13 about the “multiple boxes” of ammunition the Colorado shooter had delivered to his postal box
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First we need to call BS on this because UPS doesn't deliver to PO boxes.
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It could have been an innocent mistake. They might have meant, "USPS" - i.e. United States Postal Service".

Not that it matters. Their whole rant is just propaganda as always.

Noting that a 7.62 round can penetrate body armor while failing to mention that almost every rifle round can penetrate body armor, and must be able to in order to have enough power to deliver clean kills when used for hunting, which they claim to support, is just typical of the type of misinformation that they rely on for their bread and butter.
 
What these idiot antis fail to realize is that just because it looks like an AK doesn't make it one.
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They don't fail at all, they intentionally omit key facts because they undermine their position. Facts are boring, sensationalization hits the fear center, and most people simply do not know. They're counting on that.
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Exactly right.
 
Cmdr says:
I am ABOUT to say a BAD WORD. OH MY GOODNESS. Do these people have any idea HOW MANY commercial available rounds can penetrate BODY ARMOUR!!
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Of course they do. But as jeepmore said, they rely on the fact that the city-bred segment of the general public largely doesn't know.
 
It’s also frustrating that when a UPS employee raised concerns on September 13 about the “multiple boxes” of ammunition the Colorado shooter had delivered to his postal box,
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Glad MY UPS guy isn't a busy-body who would call the cops after every ammo shipment....! Though IIRC, as has already been mentioned, they DON'T deliver to PO boxes - and every place that sells ammo online that I know of wont send it to PO boxes.

I got a call from the brady bunch last week, not sure why but I did. Told the lady that I thought every red blooded american needed to have a gun and be armed and I was a "card toting member of the NRA" and asked her in a nice way to remove me from their list.
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I wouldn't ask them to take me off the list (though they probably did anyhow after you told her what YOU thought of gun control ;) ) - the more time and resources the Brady Bunch spends on US....the less they have to spend on those that might actually ACCEPT their propaganda! :what:
 
These guys piss me off so much.

Half the things they say are clever twists of the English language so that the meaning is not lost, but gets the support of the uninformed.

I'm really getting worried that this country will be disarmed within the next few years.
 
Perhaps even more shocking, the type of bullet many assault weapons fire (7.62mm full metal jacket) can penetrate four categories of police body armor .
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I'm sure my .30-06 could penetrate 6 layers. First they want to ban scary assault guns and pistols saying "its fine for you to own sporting(hunting) guns. While after they ban those scary looking assault guns they point out that most hunting rounds can penetrate more than most mid range "assault rifle" bullets can.
 
Of course they do. But as jeepmore said, they rely on the fact that the city-bred segment of the general public largely doesn't know.
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Yep. The largest percentage of the non-gunning population...and there are a lot of'em...learned what they know about guns and ammunition from watching Law and Order/ CSI Miami reruns. They really believe that an AK-47 will shoot through 4 houses, 5 telephone poles, an ice cream truck, a horse, an SUV carrying Suzie Soccermom and her team...killing all of them...and keep going until it leaves the Earth's gravitational pull.

They're counting on these large numbers to sway elections, because they know...even though 2A supporters number in the millions...that there are far more who either don't, or don't care one way or the other. Alarmist strategies have worked before...and the antis are hoping that they'll work again.

I'm really getting worried that this country will be disarmed within the next few years.
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Only if we let'em.
 
I don't believe the 2nd amendment was crafted to support the concept of defense from criminals or the hunting of whitetail or mule deer. The founders to a man had a profound distrust of government and with more than good reason's. The second amendment much like the electorial college can be viewed for what they really are well crafted security measure's against tyrranical and invasive concept's and there imposition and enforcement on the public by a small elite ruling class....I find it ironic that all these shootings reflect a failed socialist mental health agenda in which the liberals have been in firm control of for decades, referenced by there systematic attack on core judea/christian beliefs and family values. In short the complete destruction of the American family...........:eek:
 
Its not a new tactic. Its the democratic gun ban tactic from 2000,

"Kop Killer assault bullets like the .30-.30 are sold in any hardware store in America over the counter. Why those bullets can shoot through an armoured limosine or a policemans vest. We need to keep this dangerous ammunition out of the hands of criminals"

Turdy Kennedy Senator from Massachusetts awoke from his drunken stupor and spewed this nonsense in 2003 at the judiciary hearings over the new crime bill Assault weapon ban that contained a performance based ballistics test that said if a bullet could pierce a level IIA vest it was armour piercing and could be banned by the AG.

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This is the Pic where Kerry left the campaign trail the day before super Tuesday to vote in favor of the new AWB, and the performance based tesing of ammunition.
 
Limits

We already have limits on how much ammo or how many frearms we can buy. It's called a wife.
 
Under this tactic they wish to outlaw FMJ rifle rounds for our protection because of the threat they pose to police and body armor. This would outlaw deer rifle's (sniper rifles) and battle type (assault rifles) rifle's ammunition.
Yet in other arguments they want to insure we are all safe and protected from evil expanding ammunition, meant to kill and do far more damage. You know the type outlawed in the hague convention because it is so cruel, and so evil that even soldiers in war should not have it.
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Don't forget lead ammo should be a banned as well because…well…. it is lead and lead will kill everything in sight by its mere presence.
 
Don't forget lead ammo should be a banned as well because…well…. it is lead and lead will kill everything in sight by its mere presence.
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Although that was written tongue-in-cheek...it's not really that far-fetched that they'd target it.

The possible argument:

"And some of these gun nuts are melting lead wheelweights and making bullets out of them! This is terrible! If the victim doesn't die immediately from the wound, death is an eventual certainty from lead poisoning!"

Watch and see...
 
Master Blaster - from ( Its not a new tactic )

" You Are Great "
:what:what Part of there Oath are they not understanding:what::fire:

P.S. What constitutes a Treasonous Traitor ?
 
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In the last ten days, two states in the heart of the country have sustained mass shootings by people armed with military-style assault rifles – two attacks with assault weapons in less than a week. One shooter attacked a mall full of employees and Christmas shoppers in Omaha. The other attacked a church in Colorado.
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Thats it... we need to STOP this madness!
Ban malls and chruches, NOW!
(for the children)



(Makes about as much sense, doesn't it?)
 
the more time and resources the Brady Bunch spends on US....the less they have to spend on those that might actually ACCEPT their propaganda!
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A pretty good strategy, actually. Maybe if every internet gun forum frequent-flyer, and every NRA member...and every GOA member were to sign onto their mailing list...they'd go broke in a few years from all the solicitations for money from the "Vast increase in membership.". :D

Think about it. If 20 million "new supporters" were to get three solicitations in the first year...at 41 cents per mailing...that'd amount to nearly 25 million dollars.
 
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