The Coming Crisis

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Whitewolf 508

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Have you wondered about the timing of AWBII? Don't wonder anymore. Just look at the meltdown in the housing industry.

Most of the news media re pointing out the potential of over a million homes being lost to foreclosure in the subprime markets. Imagine over a million people being tossed out on the street and their desperation and anger. It has the potential for making Katrina and New Orleans looking like a breeze that blew down your pup tent.

These losse will not be just in one area. They will be spread all across the nation. The primary losers will be those that can least afford to go elsewhere -inner city, minority and the elderly. The banks refer to that as the "subprime market."

Do you think that our government and the special interests that run it want these people(and the rest that will be affected later on down the road)to have access to firearms ? I seriously doubt it.

Why do we have the crisis? The Federal Reserve which is NOT a government agency(it is composed of representatives from all of the major banks and is a corporation in its own right) raised the interest rates a notch at a time. The lenders could not and can not offer to refinance these Adjustible Rate Mortgages that are coming up for adjustment because of the rates that are out there now. The ARMs will adjust a certain number of points above the CURRENT rates thereby doubling and tripling monthly payments. People that have never had homes before will lose them and their hopes of living the American dream.

Sale prices will fall to the quick sale prices that the banks seek on foreclosures. New construction will stop and many people that rely on construction for their income will lose their jobs and so the cycle will grow.

The government and the banks and allied corporations do not want these people to be armed. Finally, people will realize who is really screwing them and are liable to take violent action. What better way to take that action than with an "assault weapon"?

AWBII has nothing to do with making the streets safe or even violating our rights. It is a matter of self preservation for the $250 million dollar a year CEOs and their servants in Congress.:fire: :cuss: :fire:
 
Yeah, it's all a conspiracy. It's just like the aliens and area 51 and 9/11 and . . .

What a bunch of BS. Pretty typical blue collar thinking.
 
subprime is a descriptor for people who generally don't feel compelled to pay their bills. it has nothing to do w/ skin color or locale.

ceo's make a lot of money because they know how. if you want that money, go market yourself, and start making it. once you prove you know what you're doing, and know what risks will pay off, you too will quickly generate a very large income.

awb 2 has nothing to do w/ housing markets, subprime borrowers, skin color, or any other conspiracy theory nonsense.
 
I guess that you have not worked in the business.

The subprime market is for people that have lower income and often questionable credit. I worked for a lender that specialized in subprime. Our marketing was primarily blue collar and inner city. The mortgage documentation required you to make a payment every 30 days, not once a month. If you did not, you fell into interest arrearage even if you paid every month within a traditional grace period. You an NOT able to pay every 30 days because of weekends and holidays. As soon as you fell into interest arrearage, substantial penalties were added. If you wanted to payoff the mortgage, we were instructed to delay giving you a payoff as long as possible so that the interest would build up.

Senior management at that time was happy to allow you to go to foreclosure because the values were skyrocketing and they could make a substantial profit selling your house once it was foreclosed. It was not unheard of to make a 30 to 50% profit on the house. Quite often, we would sell whole blocks of 2 story one family houses to developers who would then knock them down to build high rises or other commercial developments. The area I worked primarily was southern New Jersy, Philadelphia and Wilmington, Delaware.

If you do not believe me look at all of the complaints filed with the various state governments against Beneficial Mortgage, Household Mortgage, and so on. Look up the website for ACORNwhich is an advocacy group for consumers.

I am not a conspiracy buff or advocate. I worked in banks and mortgage companies for over 20 years primarily doing foreclosures and marketing foreclosed properties. One trick that they used was to under escrow tax money on properties where there was a lot of equity. They would pay the taxes and then "correct the escrow". People's payments would either go up by thousands per month or they would be forced into high rate loans to pay back the tax monies that were advanced.

Believe what you want. I know what is true. I also know the attitude that most bankers really held for their customers-they thought they were scum. My boss used to refer to them as the great unwashed, uneducated and unlucky..

Wake up and open your eyes. :fire:
 
Expect a government bail-out kin to the S&L crisis in the 1980's.

The idea is already being tossed around to see who grabs onto it on the financial stations such as CNBC.

AWBII has nothing to do with this. It has to do with a fanatical representative from NY who has introduced this type of legislation repeatedly in the past. It's her pet project.

It happens to be that we are a far more impowered and informed these days and we are ready to jump on this legislation far quicker these days. (Thank God!)


John
 
Where are all of the major banks headquartered ? NY city.
where this rep lives..

The bailout is going to be very difficult this time around. Just watch and see.
 
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