The incredible disappearing penny ...

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So today, my boys and I were at the range with their little .22 Marlin bolt action, ancient wood stock rifle with iron sights.

Not sure what I was thinking, because I generally prefer to bring only a couple of them along with me at a time, or enlist the aid of another adult, but there I was: me and five little boys. One gun. Plenty of ear muffs. Forgot the hats, dangit.

Everyone whined about the glasses (griping about the glasses is a tradition -- as is jamming them into the range bag at the end of the session rather than putting them back neatly into their boxes so they won't get scratched. Not that any of the kids has yet figured out the correlation between being careless with the glasses, and being annoyed by the scratches on the glasses. But I digress.)

We had The Plinker with us, a nifty little resetting steel target. My oldest had also brought along a film canister and a golf ball, and the second oldest wanted to shoot at paper. Okay, all set up. Our usual deal is that each kid gets to run through one magazine before passing the rifle to the next kid. Yeah, slow and tedious -- did I mention I like to take only a couple to the range at a time? -- but also kind of cool because they're pretty good about encouraging each other as they shoot.

Youngest up first. Age 8. Timothy is my irrepresible child. The Plinker was set at 25 yards, a respectable distance for a 2" target and iron sights for a kid that age. He hit three out of five dingers in seven shots -- good job. You should've seen the grin!

Nine year old Jonathan and ten year old David took their turns, did respectably well.

Jeremy, age 12, just joined the Civil Air Patrol this past fall. He'll be going to a Basic Marksmanship Encampment next month which he's very excited about. Apparently there's a qualifier at the end of BME? Anyway, his goal is to get all his shots into a quarter-size group at 50 feet. For various reasons, I ended up setting him up with some little orange stickers (approx 1" across) at 60 feet or so. He got one into the sticker, and six clustered closely just below it.

Ben, age 14, was the one who brought the golf ball. He balanced it on top of the film canister at 25 yards or so, and hit it first shot. The ball bounced about 10 feet further back, and he hit it a second time, knocking it ... oh, I dunno, "a long way" down range. Took him three shots to hit the ball again, but he got it.

Started back over with the littlest guy, on down the line. Got back up to Ben, and he said, "Mom, you got a penny in your pocket?"

I said, "Ummm, I don't think so... yeah, I do, two of them. Why?"

He said, "I've always wanted to have a penny with a bullet hole through the middle of it."

Okay! Off we went to the target stand, 25 yards downrange. Thick cardboard backing. I took some range tape and taped the pennies to the backing, then put an bright orange sticker centered over each penny. There you have it... go ahead, son.

He missed. Seven shots he missed, widely of the mark. (He's a better shot than that... what's the deal?) Looked at me, phony smile. "Can you do it, mom?"

Ahhhh, it becomes a little clearer now. Scamp.

"Sure, kiddo." I picked up the rifle. (I am not a rifle shooter. This little gun is a great plinker, but a target rifle it is not.) Took a deep breath. Aimed. Squeeze... oh, yes, right, safety off. Just checking. Squeezed. The orange dot vanished. Woo hoo!

But where'd it go?

I safed the weapon and we wandered downrange. "Where's the penny?"

We looked, we really did. (Did you know the blackberry bushes are up?) But ... ah well ... there's one more penny we can shoot. Surely it won't disappear on us.

Ben looked at me, back on the firing line, as I loaded another magazine. "You want to do it, Ben?" He just shook his head. Right ... of course I can repeat that shot, no problem. Right?

Three shots later, the second orange dot vanished.

Downrange we tramp.

No penny.

Drats!

Of course, it's not just no penny. It's ... it's no cool totem the kid can stick in his pocket or wear around his neck to remind him of a day at the range. And it's no proof that I can so, too, hit the center of a penny out at 25 yards. Ah, well.

We had fun, anyhow. :D

pax
 
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Way to go Pax!

I love it when people take Kids shooting! <strained voice> Must not post pix of my kids AGAIN</strained voice>
Five at a time at the range...you are not just a MOM you are SUPER MOM. I usually limit my self to Two at a time and sometimes I think that is one too many. Sounds like good work and good shooting all around.
 
NOTE TO SELF:

Penny must be taped to the front of something solid...







Hitting self on head sharply
 
Over the last few years I've had the privilege of introducing my niece to shooting. (Her parents aren't shooters) One of the things I had forgotten about kids and learning is the value of souvenirs. She saved the first soda can she center punched and sent it to her cousin to brag a little. Just last week she broke her first flying clay pigeon. She was almost as proud as I was and she kept the empty shell. It brought back memories of my learning to shoot and saving an empty as almost a trophy. I suppose it reinforces the memory.

And by the way, you can use something tougher such as duct tape to secure the coin. For such a valuable trophy, you can get a bit closer to the target to make the hole centered.
;)

Keep up the good work, Griz
 
I once shot a golf ball with an AR at 25 yards and launched it down range. I thought it would make a nice variarion of the game. Beleive it or not it never penetrated the ball. it just put a little ding in it. Maybe we are using the wrong thing for our armor... but I digress. I miss the ranges I could do this on in the midwest. Like showing my wife what a 200gr JHP from a 44 mag does to a mellon. We couldn't even find enough whole pieces to eat.
 
Nice story, and some good kids.

I tried to hit a quarter at 100 yards with a .308. I taped the quarter to the back of a PAPER TARGET. When I went to find the quarter, I instantly realized what a silly thing I had done. I got a good laugh at it, as did the 20 people I was shooting with. There is now a quarter buried deep in the berm.
 
molonlabe,

You sure it didn't penetrate? We've noticed that when a .22 goes right through a golf ball, the ball "heals" itself -- when you pick it up, there's a greyish looking dimple on one side and a greyish looking pimple on the other. Weirdest thing, but I guess they have to be pretty dang sturdy to take the abuse they receive (think about it -- what's "golf" spelled backwards? The whole game is for people into self abuse, I tell you...)

Blues,
Whattyawannbet there's a roll of Duct Tape in the range bag next trip?
And a whole roll of pennies. The other kids were all irritated they hadn't thought of it first... :D

arinvolvo,

That's one of the things I love most about the internet -- you get to know people's thoughts before you have to worry about the bag of protoplasm that carries those thoughts around. ;)

pax

For unflagging interest and enjoyment, a household of children, if things go reasonably well, certainly all other forms of success and achievement lose their importance by comparison. -- Theodore Roosevelt
 
Good thing they could not find the penny. They'd prolly get suspended for wearing a "gun-related" item in school. :barf:

It's for the children don'cha know...
 
Pax ... you have the knack of a raconteur .... most enjoyable write-up ... a sorta ''felt I was there'' kinda thing. :)

Hope your ''tribe'' appreciates the sorta Mom they have .... if not now then later.

Beats me how with 5, you manage any time on THR! :D

Thank you Ma'am.:)
 
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They'd prolly get suspended for wearing a "gun-related" item in school.
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Prolly not, Somehow I doubt Pax lets her little angels anywhere near the "Zero tolerance for common sense" government schools.


Thank you for the story.

Josh
 
DMK,

If I ever find one we've shot at, I'll let you know. ;)

Actually, this whole thing might be kinda like -- I know everyone here never did anything like trespassing on the railroad tracks without their parents knowing, but some kid I knew tried for years to get a penny that'd been squished between the train and the rails. She would leave a whole row of pennies on the tracks at a time, then retreat to a safe distance and wave at the engineer as the train went by. Never found even one squished penny after the train was gone, though ... ah, lost youth.

If I had all those pennies now, I could buy a week's worth of ammo.

pax

If I had a million dollars, I'd be rich. -- the BareNaked Ladies
 
heres a suggestion: take a empty can, not a soda can, maybe a canned vegetable kind, affix the penny to the inside, and shoot at it that way. the penny wouldnt disappear to the sides, it might bounce out towards the shooter, but it would contain its ricochet.

i had a friend put an unfired 12 guage shell into a metal housing, and set it off with my .22....didnt make any noise, but it did smoke!

golf balls are fun to shoot but they bounce and move around a lot. try a softball. they spin and maybe roll a couple of feet, but thats it.

oh yeah, i took some primed mauser brass that i didnt shoot cause of damaged cases, crammed those into a soda can and shot through it with my .22.... next to the hole from the .22 was a bulge in the can , which lead me to believe that it did set off at least one of the primers.

i love plinking!
 
Mikul

I tried to hit a quarter at 100 yards with a .308. I taped the quarter to the back of a PAPER TARGET. When I went to find the quarter, I instantly realized what a silly thing I had done. I got a good laugh at it, as did the 20 people I was shooting with. There is now a quarter buried deep in the berm.
I mounted my NJ quarter on a 3" x3" piece of wood, secured by velcro. Then I drilled holes in the 4 corners of the wood, and put wires through them for attachment to targets at the range. I know that if I hit the thing it will stay on - but I haven't zeroed my Rem 700 yet, so no hits (but the wood is looking worse for wear).

I'm using a NJ quarter in honor of having escaped from that anti-gun Hellhole. I'd love to mail a quarter with a .308" hole in it to former guv Florio, but I won't since I'll probably get investigated for making terroristic threats or some such ridiculous thing. I'll just hang it like a trophy next to the Gadsden flag in my garage.
 
:D

Hi Mom !

Yes I have lost "coinage" but learned to duct tape to a 4x4.
Bring something to 'dig' them out.
I used the 22/45's and Buckmark pistols.

"Sizes that represent"... Pennies get holes, quarters get severly dented, dimes...err...it must've moved...looked like something took a bite out it. :p
(couldn't have been the shooter, the sights were "on" - honest). :)

Fake coins used for arcades , bus transfers, and the like work.

I was shooting these with a 22/45 pistol, giving them out for fun. So one day a lady had her kids out at the range shooting the 22 rifles. The mom and I were watching the kids ( she wanted another adult with only two kids, girls ages 6 and 8). I set up two Gattis pizza tokens and set them up 75 yds down range. :D "Mom you gonna shoot?" :D [ oh yeah I had a plan] . Mom grabs the 22/45, fires two shots 75 yds downrange. I retrieve the tokens. Both have a "perfect hole dead center". WOW ! MOM! :D

Okay - two years later the kids found out the tokens had holes to begin with...but...bragging rights "my mom can outshoot your mom" ...well...the way I figure it, not a bad thing to keep the kids on their toes and keep them wondering about some stuff. :D

Single mom raising two girls and ...well...when things get unruly and she gives that "look" and says "ladies...you are driving me crazy so chill out"...they chill. :p
 
Will a .22 even penetrate a penny at 25 yards?

I would hope so. Ishot a quarter at 50 yards with a .22 pistol once just for fun, it took me a few shots to hit it, but went through the quarter and bent it all up.:D
 
I shot an aluminum alloy plate approx. the thickness of a quarter with a 9mm and .45ACP and neither penetrated, even at 15 feet. It was severely dented, though.

I don't think a .22LR would puncture any American currency.

I once saw a video of a man shooting a large can of tomatoe sauce with a quarter under it with a .243. The bottom of the can showed a somewhat clear image of the topography of the quarter.
 
Civil Air Patrol

Jeremy, age 12, just joined the Civil Air Patrol this past fall.

Pax, that's great. I was a member of CAP for 5 years ('85 - '90). CAP offers a lot of opportunities for growth and instilling a sense of service to one's community. According to friends who subsequently joined the military, being a CAP cadet helped them when they joined the service.

To bring this back on topic, I got to shoot a bunch of guns when I was in CAP, including an M-16A1 and an XM-16E1 at Ft. Indiantown Gap, PA.
 
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