The NEF and H&R Single Shots....

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You'd better double check whether your frame is rated for rifle pressures. There's a thread either here or on Graybeard Outdoors' NEF forum about a guy who bought a combo used with a 30-30 barrel on a shotgun-only (SB1) frame. He put the gun in a vice and pulled the trigger with a string, and sure enough kablooie! The action blew open and a shard of metal went flying right about where his face would have been. Rifle frames can take shotgun barrels but shotgun frames cannot be used safely with rifle barrels as they are not rated for rifle pressures.

Just FYI, so nobody gets hurt.

gp911
 
Here is a quicky pic of my SB-1 'Tamer' .410 with the Choate stock and forend installed.
This is a great little shotgun for squirrel and rabbits.
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Dave , Thank You for your writing. I have a H&R Topper bought in 75.It is a youth straight stock in 20 gauge(modified) and a 22 hornet Barrel. I use this often. Recently the firing pin broke.It now has a new one and is back in action. Byron
 
As I think sm may agree, no sane person would want to face a determined mom defending her little ones with a loaded 20 ga. single shot in her hands.

I once read an old, old book about guns in all manner of situations, and I recall the author saying that singles (and, to a lesser degree, doubles) are not as good for HD because you cannot fire a warning shot.

That said, I'm sure any determined woman will have no use for a warning shot :D:evil::eek:

You'd better double check whether your frame is rated for rifle pressures.

NEF/H&R won't fit rifle barrels for shotgun receivers, it says so on the site and their service dept won't do it. Still, there is a degree of interchangeability due to all the guns having a similar action, so my solution is to only disassemble one of them buggers at a time!

I got single-shot stories, I'll post my own in a little - I feel this one is getting a little long-winded, and there's only one guy among us who gets away with writing a doctoral thesis for every thread he contributes to...

(man it must be steve season :rolleyes:)
 
HR Toppers

There is more to Byron's story about the H&R Topper 20 ga/ .22 Hornet. We have shared ownership of that gun so many times that we can no longer recount or count the times it has changed hands in trades, swaps, and out right purchases!!!! Yes, Byron does own it today, but that doesn't mean that it won't end up in my gun cabinet again!!!!

May they live forever!
 
Dave -- another great article. Here's to hoping you get around to writing a book (hint, hint...)

I've often wondered what the purpose of the single-shot really is. I think of a 12-gauge single-shot as our century's version of the Imperial Brown Bess musket. Sure, there are lots of things that are better for any specific application, but very few things that are as good at any application...

Having said that, is my Stevens 311a SXS twice as good?
 
Thanks,honkeoki.

The purpose of the single shot shotgun is to provide a simple, durable firearm capable of defense,food and recreation for as little money as possible.

Similar processes have blessed us with the Model T Ford, the VW Beetle, and Leo Fender's superb Telecaster.
 
My Uncle Paul-really my grandfather's brother- had a small farm and worked in a factory. He had an old 16 ga H&R single shot , used so much most of the blue was gone. He hunted meat for the table and that old Topper helped him get his family through the Depression. It was his only gun, and he took everything that walked or flew with it. I first saw it in the 1950's, and have loved the little top break shotguns ever since.

Mark
 
They're like that, Mark. Lots of us love the singles with little logic but much emotion.
 
Very interesting! Many times nowdays we get all wrapped up around the axle on the new guns.....especialy rifled barrels. If one looks at some of the Slug Shooting Forums, you would have ti think that only the elitist high dollar guns work!....Not so!
At Ole'Dixie, we have a rack full of NEF with all matter of extra barrels! Not one has shot lose yet!
The NEF Ultras in 12 and 20 will group good slug ammo, and many times better, that the fancy high dollar bolt guns!
The NEF Trackers work great with ammo that matches the original full bore Paradox blackpowder loads....730"-730 gr-1050'/" in 12 gauge and .625"-500 gr-1950'/" to 1250'/" in 20 gauge.....compare those in your Ballistc Program to the well know pistol offerings!
The point here is that the everyday meat hunter is buying NEF's as fast as they come off the lines......and where can anyone buy extra barrels as cheap?
Also....If you send your action up to get ab extra barrel....if you ask they will work the trigger over!
Regards, James
 
Aw dang it, Dave, and U 2, Steve {just because it is ALWAYS 'Blame it on Steve' (sm) day} I gotta get one of those top-break shotties.

I started out hunting with "Pops" shotgun...Savage/Stevens Mdl 94B 16-Ga..with that really light "tenite" furniture. Didn't weight a heckuva lot more than my Nylon 66 .22LR.

'Twas a serious thumper on both ends...Kinda thinking about that Rossi (IIRC) triple threat combo..20Ga field barrel, 20-Ga slug barrel & .22 barrel. Or maybe just the H&R/NEF single-barrel, and adding rifle barrels as time, money & Mrs. Foggy allow.....
 
I've wanted a good single shot like this for some time, but decided on getting a pump instead.

I would love to pick one of these up, or maybe a Rossi matched set.
 
The first firearm I ever shot was my Grandfather's H&R single shot .410. That shotgun got me hooked on the wonderful sport/hobby. I still love shooting that little gun whenever I have the chance, and will cherish the gun and the memories I continue to make with it for the rest of my life. :)
 
Since first reading this thread, I now have six (6) more single shot shotguns.


I hate you all.



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It's amazing how much interest this thread has attracted. More than threads on high dollar shotguns, in fact.

I reckon folks have memories of these that help keep things going.

Along with the economics. With a lot of single shots selling even now new for roughly $100, these can be obtained by the financially challenged, the young and those who need a good reliable tool.
 
Since this thread started I remembered that my dad had a couple of youth model 20 gauge NEF shotguns that he purchased for my brothers a few years back, one of which now has a broken striker & lifter assembly. Since the brother with the broken gun is no longer interested in shotgunning(likes rifles more) I decided to ask my dad about it. He said i could have it since it has just been sitting around, so now i have a youth 20 gauge to add the the full size NEF 20 gauge my dad gave me when i turned 9. These things are addictive and fun, and PTK is right, they do temporarily cure I-want-a-new-gun-itis.

-Matt
 
The first gun I ever bought was a NEF 12 ga. I got it when I was 15 if I remember right from a pawn shop for $56 and a cd I didn't like. (My dad obviously is the one that completed the transaction for me since I was a minor, but I did the bartering with the jerk who ran the shop myself).

I only had two rounds for it when I first got it, both 00 buckshot. I shot both of them and had a bruise for a week. The first full box of shells I put through it where all shot from the hip because my shoulder was still too tender. It kicked so hard that it cut the inside of my finger on the trigger guard.

After I got a recoil pad I shot the thing constantly. Clays, rabbits, birds, couches, cars, refrigerators, microwaves, water jugs, dirt clods, you name it, I've probably shot it with my 12 ga. Despite the fact it's a single shot, it's still one of the funnest guns I've ever shot. It's also the only gun I'd never consider selling, but that's also due to the fact that I wouldn't get hardly anything out of it since they're so cheap new anyhow. Another reason I'll never sell it is because it would be the easiest gun in the world to turn into a sawed off shotgun. (Not that I would ever do it, but just in case that law is ever repealed or I have to fight off zombies, it's nice to know).
 
Hooptie:
I am still waiting on an answer as to whether H&R will fit up a 20 guage Tamer barrel to my .410 Tamer.
Dirty dogs are going to make me buy another shotgun!:D
 
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