The Ruger SR 556: Seriously?!?!

[TechBrute]

I like Ruger rifles, if I had $2,000 I would buy one.

For $2000, you could buy the rifle and an optic for it.

I saw one at the show last weekend for $1550 or so. Seriously, though, when Troy sights cost $250 for a set, and the forearm would usually run you over $200, you're talking $1100 for a rifle from a big name manufacturer. If this Ruger proves to be a quality piece, I think the price alone will make it move.

For the record, I'm not saying it's not a quality piece, but nearly any gun will get through the first 500 rounds without a problem. Talk to me after 5-10K.

 

[cpirtle]

I saw one at the show last weekend for $1550 or so. Seriously, though, when Troy sights cost $250 for a set, and the forearm would usually run you over $200, you're talking $1100 for a rifle from a big name manufacturer...

For the record, I'm not saying it's not a quality piece, but nearly any gun will get through the first 500 rounds without a problem. Talk to me after 5-10K.

That was a big factor for me, I paid 1599 for mine and when compared to an equally equipped non-gas S&W, Colt, Bushmaster etc it was a great deal.

I am not planning to clean or lube mine for at least 1000 rounds just to see what happens, ***, it's got a lifetime warranty

I understand your logic on the 5-10k test for quality but 95% of this gun is outsourced to major manufacturers (barrel and flash supressor are made in house IIRC) and it's the first production gas operated AR built from the ground up. This should alleviate many problems.

 

[USBP379]

Do you guys have any signs of carrier tilt?

 

[TechBrute]

am not planning to clean or lube mine for at least 1000 rounds just to see what happens, ***, it's got a lifetime warranty

I can't speak for Ruger, but I wouldn't honor a warranty on an item that wasn't properly maintained. You don't need to clean it, but it needs to be lubed. Heck, I don't think 10K+ without cleaning is a big deal, as long as you're keeping it lubed.

 

[TexasRifleman]

can't speak for Ruger, but I wouldn't honor a warranty on an item that wasn't properly maintained. You don't need to clean it, but it needs to be lubed. Heck, I don't think 10K+ without cleaning is a big deal, as long as you're keeping it lubed.

Just to add to that, you need to check into Rugers "warranty". They don't actually have one.

Ruger has a very good reputation for fixing things for free, and that's good for business, but they are entirely free to not fix a firearm that they feel has been abused.

They have stated at one time or another, in writing, to customers that they won't fix:

* damage from reloads or out-of-spec ammo
* damage from misuse/neglect
* guns that have been modified from stock (grips/sights/accessories are OK, barrels/recoil springs/trigger jobs are not)
* damage as a result of failure to heed the warnings in the manual

They seem to be iffy on the trigger job thing. They have been known to repair things but to replace custom or altered parts with factory parts. They do return the other parts though.

But try if you want, it sounds like it could be a very expensive experiment

From Ruger:

The Magnuson-Moss Act (Public Law 93-637) does not require any seller or manufacturer of a consumer product to give a written warranty. It does provide that if a written warranty is given, it must be designated as "limited" or as "full" and sets minimum standards for a full warranty. Sturm,Ruger & Company, Inc. has elected not to provide any written warranty, either "limited" or "full, rather than to attempt to comply with the provisions of the Magnuson - Moss Act and the regulation issued thereunder. There are certain implied warranties under state law with respect to sales of comsumer goods.As the extent and interpretation of these implied warranties varies from state to state, you should refer to your state statutes. Sturm, Ruger and Company wishes to assure its customers of it's continued interest in providing service to owners of Ruger firearms.

 

[nwilliams]

My local shop just got two of them in the other day. I like the look and feel of them, they seem very well built but at $1800 I think I'll hold off for a while.

 

[Rubber_Duck]

nwilliams, where are you seeing the new Ruger AR? I haven't been able to locate a shop in Albuquerque that has one in stock yet.

 

[wojownik]

Not sure if anyone mentioned it earlier, but as to why Ruger may be getting into the AR market now might have something to do with the expiration of the Colt M4 contract. The Army may or may not competitively bid another run of M4, but if they do, Ruger would probably want a shot at the business.

IIRC, they Ruger wanted to bid the into the Army's handgun competition, but they missed their shot since the P85 was not quite ready. They're a bit late in the game now, but they may be looking to shake out the product line in the civilian market before making a run at DOD business...

 

[nwilliams]

nwilliams, where are you seeing the new Ruger AR? I haven't been able to locate a shop in Albuquerque that has one in stock yet.

The Outdoorsman here in Santa Fe had two of them last week. Not sure if they're still there or not.

 

[Rubber_Duck]

Thanks nwilliams. I was finally able to check one out at a little shop in Albuquerque. I really like the new Ruger AR, the Troy sights are very nice and it is about as front-heavy as I expected. Their price was $1700, a bit steep IMO.

 

[12131]

gotm4 has done T&E on the 556 Ruger and posted it over M4Carbine.net and AR15Armory.com. Yes, it definitely shows sign of carrier tilt.

 

[EvanWilliams]

Mini 14

I don't own an AR. I can't justify it. I have a mini-14 (an old one!!) that is damn reliable. Not accurate? Well with the first 10 or 12 boxes of ammo i tried, yes. Some it shot OK(remington 55gr jhp) and others horribly (Wolf). Then I found the sweet spot. WWB 45gr jhp varmint round!!! I am a terrible rifle shot but I can keep it at an inch with iron sights (or could 8 years ago) with that load. My mini loves it.

 

[Gibbles]

I was glad to see them pop out an AR, same with Remington's AR-15, although I wish they offered it with options.