There are many good 1911s available.How does the Kimbers fit for the money?

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I know there are alot of 1911s.There are alot that have good quality.I know the Kimbers are costly.I understand they have alot of handson work.I do own one.I like it alot.I am considering another.I would like to get everyones ideas.Does the cost equal the Quality?The suggested retail is 875.00 or so for the base model.They go up from that...The custom shop Kimbers look nice ...the Grand Raptor looks great!!! Kimber offers many models.Thanks for your ideas and help!

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i think of the Kimber line as spanning the area of the middle priced 1911...

it offers features and CNC machining wanted by folks entering the 1911 market...but not willing to pay for the hand fitting of the upper end 1911s nor seeing the value of the high end custom production models
 
I wasted money on a Kimber once. A Dan Wesson is a lot more pistol for the money Isn't loaded with MIM parts or that silly 1930's trigger block safety Thats known to break.
my Kimber came pre rusted under grips Real class
 
I have always thought Kimbers were a little overpriced. They're nice, but I think there are nicer pistols for the money. If I was going to drop $900-$1000 on a 1911 my first stop would be Colt. Pretty much every Colt I've seen has been nicer then the comparable Kimber.

True, Kimber has more models to get exactly the feature list you want, but most of them are fluff.

I've also seen more Kimbers have issues at the range then other 1911's in that price range. YMMV
 
A Colt 1911 was the first handgun I ever owned.

Having said that, Kimber blows Colt away. Colts are only an empty shell of what they used to be, and I consider my current Kimbers to be better than even the "old" Colts.

Kimber makes the finest production 1911 available today. If you want something better, you better be ready to shell out some serious bucks for a custom Wilson, Baer etc.
 
I've been shooting IDPA for more than 10 years and only actually seen one Kimber that had any issues. Mine wore out a slide catch after 10 years of shooting matches once or twice a month year around. I also used it for practice and to train CCW and LE classes.

Two weeks ago was the first time it was broken down all the way since it was bought. I replaced the springs and added a couple parts I wanted, but it did not need. I also had it refinished because after 10 years of regular carry the blue wasn't so nice anymore.

It still shoots one-hole groups and the trigger pull is the same four pounds its always been. And it still never malfunctions.

The 1911s I have seen malfunction the most are Springfields. I've seen so many of them fail that when someone brings one to a match I keep an eye on them to see if their gun makes it all the way through without a hiccup. They usually don't.

I don't like the safety they added to the new models, but that is my preference. I also do not like the plastic mainspring housings, but mine had one for 10 years and it never failed. I replaced it when I rebuilt it.

I like to rebuild 1911s so my primary concern is a quality frame to do my custom work. The Kimber frame, slide, barrel combination is as good as you'll find on most any 1911. I've only run into one that had a poor fit between the slide and frame. But, every company turns out a lemon now and then. Kimber fixed it when it was returned.
 
i've had my Kimber Custom Eclipse for about 10 years. absolutely flawless.

shoots one hole groups. i can't think of a better gun for the money.
 
Kimbers are as close to perfect as I've found in 1911's. You have to pay a lot more for a semi custom gun to see any real improvement.

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that silly 1930's trigger block safety Thats known to break.

Maybe this is why you had a problem with the Kimber... you weren't even aware of its internal operation. The Series II Kimbers have a firing pin block safety, not a trigger block style safety like the series 80 Colt's.
 
I've had two Kimber 1911's, a Raptor and an Eclipse. The Raptor had jamming and failure to feed issues from the beginning and went back to the shop to be returned to the factory. I was given a store credit and applied it to an Eclipse. The Eclipse functioned fine for me but I ended up trading it to a friend for a scope and some cash. Unfortunately, my friend then had jamming and failure to feed issues with the Eclipse a little later. Since that was the third Kimber he had run into problems with, he swore off the line completely.

From what I've read and seen, the newer production Kimber 1911's have been suffering more QC issues. Even the Eclipse that replaced my Raptor had bad checkering. It was a small thing but it was evidence of a larger issue. They are cranking the guns out at a rate that exceeds their ability to control quality. In the late 90's, Kimber 1911's offered a lot for the money. Now, they are more of a midpoint product at a midpoint price.

If you already have a Kimber and like it, that's great. However, if I was in the market for another 1911, I'd add some money and pick up a used Wilson CQB. I've seen several used ones in fantastic shape end up selling in the $1500 range. You have to be patient to get one in that price range, but once you step into the semi-custom 1911's (Wilson, Nighthawk, etc.) you're not going to want to go back into anything less.

My first 1911 was a very nicely tuned, customized Colt. It's a great pistol and I like it a lot. I've had a bunch of 1911's since. I did not find anything that rivaled my first 1911 until I shot a friend's Wilson CQB Elite. If I had just started with Wilson pistols, I could have saved a lot of time and money.
 
The money I spent on my three Kimbers to get them to work reliably would have been better spent on a couple of Les Baers; my Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special has been 100% reliable from round one.
 
I have a Custom II that has been perfect for nearly 5 years now. Based on internet forum chatter it seems the basic models like mine seem to have fewer problems. I also have Colts and Springfield 1911's. While I have had issues from 1911 pistols in the past, the 5 I currently own have never given me a problem. Based on my experience I would call them equal.
 
You will certainly find good and bad in anything, but my experience with Kimbers made my mind up never to own another one. Everything, short of a total explosion, went wrong with mine. Got my money back and bought a Springfield and it hasn't failed me yet. Like a guy at a gun show told me "Some folks swear by 'em, and some folks swear at 'em". I think that is a pretty good way of looking at the situation. Just like some folks drive Fords and some folks drive Chevys. Then the folks who know what they are doing, drive Dodge trucks and carry a shotgun.
 
I bought my first Kimber (Custom II) back in 1991 IIRC. I now have seven Kimbers, what does that tell you? I love 'em!
 
I must be lucky according to all the internet stuff about Kimber, because I currently have 7 of them and haven't had any problems from any of them. Nothing has broke and none of them have needed work done to them.
Current list is Tactical Custom II, Desert Warrior, Eclipse Custom in 10mm, SIS Custom, SIS Pro, SIS Ultra, and a Rimfire Target.
 
I have had a lot of different 1911 and honestly the dan wesson (cz) is the best for the buck.
Great fit and finish, series 70 no mim parts.

Here is a pic of my primary carry gun..Dan Wesson Commander Bobtail.
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Of my 4 Kimbers the only one I've had any issues with was a Pro Carry II. Otherwise, my Ultra and full size Raptor II's and Custom II have been Flawless and a pleseure to shoot.

Customer Service is not the best and QC has tightened up subsantially. They do produce a lot of guns.

If I could get the Pro and Grand Raptor II's, I'd be a happy camper.
 
I've owned 2 Kimbers. One was a Tactical Ultra II and had a lot of issues with it and got rid of it. I still currently own a Stainless Raptor. BEAUTIFUL fit and finish, accurate as hell, never a hiccup. Only complaint about the Raptor is that the gun is still so tight (have only shot 300 rounds or so) and the scales on the slide make it difficult to rack the slide.

I am currently saving up for a Dan Wesson Commander Bobtail. I have searched long and hard and have found ZERO negative comments about it. For 800-900 price range, Kimber can't even compare. My suggestion: go with a DW CBOB!
 
I love mine

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When I was younger and didn't know ****e about guns, let alone 1911s, I thought kimbers were gorgeous, and they are still fantastic looking pistols.
But for the price, they're tightly coiled piles of crap.

I've seen a lot of instances of rust on new kimbers. Recently I was in an shop and they had a Pro CDP II and I handled it a little bit. I discovered that the right side ambi-safety didn't always fully disengage the safety, causing the left side to actually rub on the cocking serrations.

I also discovered some rust on the barrel. That alone was cause for the owners of the shop to send it back, but Kimber doesn't deal with returns or repairs, it all goes through their custom shop, which is only open till 1pm eastern time. For a shop that opens at 11am pacific time, that makes it very hard to return a gun for issues.

Other than that, I just don't like the way they feel. Most things on 1911s are minute differences. The average passerby isn't going to notice the difference in grip safeties or the shape of the thumb safety, or the feel of cycling the slide. But from owning a few 1911s and handling many, the kimbers rank near the bottom of my list in terms of felt quality.
 
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