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Today's Yahoo communique. Hopefully, this is all wrong. Otherwise...

More Iraqis Lured to Al Qaeda Group By Greg Miller and Tyler Marshall Times Staff Writers
Fri Sep 16, 7:55 AM ET



WASHINGTON — Al Qaeda's top operative in Iraq is drawing growing numbers of Iraqi nationals to his organization, increasing the reach and threat of an insurgent group that has been behind many of the most devastating attacks in the country, U.S. officials and Iraqi government leaders say.

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The group, headed by Jordanian-born radical Abu Musab Zarqawi, previously was composed almost exclusively of militants from other Arab nations, and has symbolized the foreign dimension of a stubborn insurgency fighting to oust U.S. forces.

But Zarqawi "is bringing more and more Iraqi fighters into his fold," a U.S. official said, adding that Iraqis accounted for "more than half his organization."

Although Zarqawi is believed to command fewer than 1,000 fighters, the daring and lethal nature of their attacks, coupled with Zarqawi's links to the Al Qaeda terrorist network, has made him the most notorious figure in the Iraq insurgency.

The U.S. has set a $25-million bounty on Zarqawi, whose organization has been behind a series of beheadings, suicide bombings and other gruesome attacks.

Zarqawi's faction has claimed responsibility for a bombing campaign this week that has left at least 169 dead in Baghdad, apparently in reprisal for a U.S.-Iraqi campaign against insurgents in the northern city of Tall Afar. One of the car bombers reportedly lured day laborers to his vehicle by posing as an employer. It was unclear whether he was Iraqi.

Details of a growing Iraqi dimension to Zarqawi's group were provided by three U.S. officials with access to classified intelligence data and who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject. Their comments reflect the government's latest attempt to come to grips with a multi-layered insurgency that has often confounded U.S. forces and intelligence agencies.

The U.S. officials indicated that the infusion of Iraqis, including, apparently, former members of the Iraqi intelligence service and military, represented a change in the group's makeup rather than a major expansion.

A significant Iraqi presence in the Zarqawi group carries ominous implications, both for the Bush administration and the fledgling, popularly elected government it supports in Baghdad.

The Iraqis under Zarqawi's wing could provide him with better intelligence, and give legitimacy to a group viewed by many Iraqis as unwanted outsiders. In addition, Iraqi recruits are being exposed to the workings of a highly efficient extremist group.

The influx of Iraqis also would diminish the effect of any tightening of border controls — a key Bush administration objective — on the insurgency's strength.

U.S. intelligence in Iraq has frequently been wrong. However, two factors add credence to the reports of the shifting composition of Zarqawi's group: Several of his senior lieutenants have been captured by U.S. forces in recent months and some reportedly have talked extensively under interrogation.

Senior Iraqi officials reported seeing the same development.

Mowaffak Rubaie, Iraq's national security advisor and a former Shiite activist, said "there's no doubt" that once-nationalistic elements of the insurgency were drifting toward Zarqawi and his extremist Salafi sect, also known as Wahhabism, which seeks to establish a puritanical society modeled on early Islamic times.

"There's a tendency to religion-ize the insurgency," he said. "Religion is a strong motive. You're not going to find someone who's going to die for Baathists. But Salafists have a very strong message.

"If you use the Koran selectively, it could be a weapon of mass destruction."

Few Iraqis appear to share Zarqawi's goal of establishing a radical Islamic state, but small numbers of Iraqi hard-liners apparently are attracted by the effectiveness of Zarqawi's group.

"They're the best game in town, the most organized organization," said a U.S. official, who added that Zarqawi's network was also a "well-funded organization that is willing to pay people for their work" when many Iraqis, particularly police, have little or no income.

The officials noted that police in three cities, including Mosul, are not being paid. They declined to name the others.

Officials said it was not clear how dedicated these Iraqis were to the broader Al Qaeda cause, or whether they would be willing to travel outside the country to carry out terrorist attacks in Arab or Western nations.

Zarqawi escaped capture in February near the city of Ramadi, authorities say. He fled on foot as coalition forces at a checkpoint intercepted a truck containing a laptop and documents. Coalition forces since have killed or captured several of his lieutenants. The latest such incident was announced Sept. 9, when a U.S. military official said a high-level aide had been killed in western Iraq.

But the U.S. officials who are familiar with intelligence on Zarqawi's group said the organization had proved remarkably resilient and was organized to withstand losses of key leaders, including Zarqawi.

One of the officials noted that coalition forces thought they had delivered a major blow in January with the capture of Zarqawi's principal bomb maker in the capital. But since then, the official said, "car bombs are way up in Baghdad."

Overall, the officials said, the insurgency in Iraq is divided into three "clumps": religious extremists such as Zarqawi; former members of the Baath Party of Saddam Hussein; and disparate Iraqi groups acting out of local or national interests.

The officials described a steady flow of Saudis, Yemenis and other Arab nationals into — and, in some cases, out of — the country. But officials said foreign fighters accounted for less than 10% of the insurgents in Iraq.

Zarqawi's reported success in recruiting Iraqis to his cause comes as frustration is mounting among the minority Sunni Arabs, who fear they will be marginalized in the new Iraq and are prepared to fight its emergence.

The CIA and other agencies have resisted pressure to provide an estimate of the number of insurgents in Iraq, partly out of concern that it would foster the impression that there is a finite population that can be stamped out.

Rather, officials said intelligence analysts had noted that there were about 800,000 to 1 million Iraqi Sunni Arab men of military age who represent the pool of potential insurgents. How many might turn to violence depends on several factors, starting with the extent to which Sunnis are satisfied with their stake in any new government.

Some Sunnis have objected to the draft constitution that is to be presented to Iraqis in a national referendum next month. The community's sense of estrangement could be heightened if the document is passed, as is likely, over its objections.

"They're going to be extremely disappointed when they fail, and they're going to believe this is the result of fraud and being cheated out of what they deserve," one of the U.S. officials said. "There's going to be some real ratcheting up of Sunni disaffection with the process."

The trial of Hussein, to begin next month, is also likely to add to a sense of victimization among Sunnis, analysts say.

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Times staff writer Borzou Daragahi in Baghdad contributed to this report.
 
Zarqawi's reported success in recruiting Iraqis to his cause comes as frustration is mounting among the minority Sunni Arabs, who fear they will be marginalized in the new Iraq and are prepared to fight its emergence.

Hmmmmm. Less than 20% of the pupulation. Surrounded by hated Shiia (supported by Iranian Shiia) and hated Kurds. And Zarqawi (Jordanian) wants to start a civil war in Iraq? What is he thinking?

Sounds like a recipe for disaster for somebody. You know how easy it really is if you want to win a civil war? You just have to be willing to kill every thing that moves. I doubt that would bother the Shiia....payback and all that.

I would think the Joe Sunni in the street would be wanting to keep his head down for a while. He has to know we would back off until the screams stopped...then back to business with the Shiia and Kurds...with a big empty hole where the Sunnis' used to be.

Then again, the MSM is dying for a civil war too.
 
Whether or not there's any truth to the article—considering the source, that's probably infinitely debatable—land wars in Asia have a nasty habit of turning exceedingly vicious in myriad ways unimagined by their antagonists.

The only Asian war we've ever won was World War II. We didn't win it by invading Japan.
 
The only Asian war we've ever won was World War II. We didn't win it by invading Japan.

Agreed. The inevitable conclusion is that we can only win with the determination it took to firebomb Tokyo and nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Today, Gen. LeMay would have nuked Iran, occupied Saudi Arabia, and executed all Wasabists, starting with the terrorist-financing clerics. Regrettably, I have difficulty finding fault with his logic.
 
You mean to tell me the LA Times is "reporting" negative stories of the Iraq war? I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!
 
"More Iraqis Lured to Al Qaeda Group By Greg Miller and Tyler Marshall"

Why are these two luring Iraqis to Al Qaeda? :eek:

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

John
 
The content of this article reads as though everything is known about everything Zarqawi is doing, with who and with what. Everyone and everything living or working with Zarqawi. But Zarqawi himself is invisible.

Perhaps he's a bean in one of three matchboxes on a Mosul street market table; but no one can ever pick the right one. Perhaps Osama Bin Ladin is in one of the other two matchboxes. That would increase the chances of a win though.
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Typical leftist propoganda.

What they'll never tell you is this:

http://www.fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/

http://63.247.134.60/~pobbs/archives/001736recap_september_operations_in_iraq.html

A lot is happening this weekend. First, Iraq. The Security Watchtower site has a graphic listing all the military operations undertaken in Iraq as of September 16.

Multiple airstrikes in Qaim
Operations in Ar Rutbah in the far West
Operations in Haditha
Operations in Saqlawiyah
Operation "Flick Ticker" in Baghdad
Operation Royalty in Taji
Operations in Mosul
and Tal-Afar ("Operation Restoring Rights")
What's remarkable about this is that there have been 14 US KIA up to September 16. That is one third the rate for the period last year -- in a month of offensives. The attacks on Baghdad highlighted by the press, More Iraqis Joining Zarqawi's Cause, How troops struggle in a war raging on five fronts, Bombers Maintain Intense Attack included attacks on three American convoys wounding 10 but killing none.



Quite a different picture than you get from biased news media like the red LA Times. War is never good, but sometimes we have to suck it up. It looks to me like the terrorists are getting their clocks cleaned.
 
OpinionJournal.com has a semi-regular column usually titled, "A round up of the last two weeks of good news from Iraq."

The columns are always VERY long.

A google search got the following:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007176

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Major's Frustration
A roundup of the past two weeks' good news from Iraq.

BY ARTHUR CHRENKOFF
Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT

Maj. Joe Leahy is a civil engineer with the U.S. Army's Engineer Brigade. He has been stationed at Camp Victory, outside of Baghdad, since November 2004--enough time to get frustrated. "We all know it's a dangerous place," he says. "But the thing that I want people to understand is that they only see those one or two instances in the country that are negative. You don't really hear about the 100 things that have gone good."

He adds, "One thing we've got to understand is that it's not going to happen tomorrow, but we are doing something that's getting better every day."

Leahy's good-bad ratio may be debatable, but many servicemen and their families and friends back home, not to mention the general public, have been getting frustrated lately with the media coverage of Iraq--enough so to cause some limited, though still welcome, soul-searching among major media outlets. Whether the coverage will improve as a result remains to be seen. In the meantime, here are the past two weeks' worth of stories, some of which you might have missed.

• Society. Some Sunnis don't like the proposals, but that's democracy. There's certainly nothing like a major political disagreement to motivate people to engage in the political process:


Angered by Shiite calls for a federal region, Sunni clerics urged followers . . . to vote against the constitution if it contains measures they believe would divide the country. . . .
Iraq's three major Sunni organizations appeared to have taken a united stand both for voting and against demands for federalism after they boycotted the Jan. 30 parliamentary elections. . . .

Sheik Mahmoud al-Sumaidaie, of the influential Sunni Association of Muslim Scholars, told worshippers at Baghdad's Umm al-Qura mosque to register for the upcoming votes because "we are in need to your voice to say 'yes' for the constitution or 'no.' "

Such voices are growing louder and increasingly representative of the whole Sunni community:

The general conference of Sunnis in Iraq, which includes "the Sunni Mortmain," "the Association of Muslim Scholars," "the Iraqi Islamic Party," and a group of Sunni parties and organizations, was held in Baghdad and has urged all Arab Sunnis to participate in the coming elections.
In his speech before hundreds of attendees, Ahmed Abdel Ghafur Al Samera'i said, "Participating in the plebiscite on the constitution is a prescribed duty for all Sunnis."

He added, "I swear to Allah that the greatest privilege, through which you gain the love of Allah, is your efforts in participating in the coming elections and gathering the Sunnis, hoping that Allah would alleviate their suffering."

Alaa Maki, member of the political bureau in the "Iraqi Islamic Party," has confirmed, "The party has suggested the provision of cities of Sunni majority with additional lists, so that everyone would be able to register their information in the electors and plebiscite on the permanent constitution records."

He added, "We would enter the elections with a heavier weight than some people imagine. We would continue in participating in the political process side by side with the constituents of the Iraqi people." He referred to the existence of some misunderstanding among the political blocs, with regard to the elections' law and the mechanism of executing them. He called all Imams and preachers to direct and urge people to participate in the plebiscite on the permanent constitution and participate in the coming elections.

Check out the flier the Islamic Party, is distributing, which aims to convince Sunnis that voting is a religious duty. What a difference a few months can make.
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Zarqawi just declared war on all Shiite muslims in Iraq. He is alienating far more people than he is attracting. Go ahead, keep killing regular Iraqis and soon they won't have any safehouses except in Sunni controlled towns, which can be reduced to rubble by airstrikes.
 
He who wishes to fight must first count the cost. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be dampened. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor dampened, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue... In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War

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This blog was just updated. This blogger offers some good points.

http://www.fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/

Readers may want to read Col HR McMaster's(commander of the 3rd Armoured Cavalry Regiment) description of the operation in Tal-Afar of September verbatim. There's too much in it to meaningfully summarize in a few short paragraphs. Several things stand out. The first is that despite the enemy's use of IEDs, snipers, mortar teams, boob-trapped buildings and the fortification of a dense urban area, Coalition forces swept through it like s..t through a goose. And this appears to be due, in part, to a creative form of battlefield shaping founded on unspecified and better sources of human and technical intelligence. Enemy delaying actions did not work. Attempts to evade and relocate did not work. Traps were sprung. Fighters trying to blend into the crowd were found. The enemy decided to defend its remaining enclaves in the city because they were out of moves.

Of all the weapons of the insurgency, it is their ability to set the public terms of the debate that has proven the most powerful. Their model of fighting a combined media-arms campaign has created an alternative reality which Western opinion-makers unconsciously inhabit.
 
In China every year 11 million boys turn 18. They could win a land war, anywhere, occupy anywhere. We can't even get military recruiters on our campuses without various hissyfits by the sophistos. Lemay was derided, at the end, as a loonytune, but if we are serious about winning this war against radical Islam we are going to have to use the advantages we have. Manpower isn't one of them, despite the obvious high quality of the military we have in uniform. The word "draft" is anathema. That leaves...?
 
I recall Zarqawi stating once that his war in iraq was a war "against democracy." We have no choice but to win in iraq. If we lose, democracy and everything we've fought for for the past 200 years will also lose. I dont understand why most of the American people dont comprehend that. I wonder if it can be blamed on the liberal media which keeps painting such a grim situation. Either that or the American people have just turned into a bunch of pussies.
 
If they can get there. Having a big army is one thing. Being able to deploy it any distance from their homeland in another.

This always irks me. The fact remains that the worlds largest merchant marine fleet is.....COSCO......owned by.....THE PLA. And oh yeah, they have stake in several US ports.
 
What do you think we used in the gold old WW's? Those weren't convoys of LST's goin to Europe. And seeing as COSCO has stake in ports in your state, yeah, I see a slight chance there. Blue water ports+ largest merchant marine fleet= sustainable global projection of force.
 
Blue water ports+ largest merchant marine fleet= sustainable global projection of force.

A plot more suitable for a novel than a real-world mililtary operation.

First off the convoys you speak of were taking material to safe harbors, not directly to invasion sites. The men and material must assemble somewhere and prepare for the invasion.

But most importantly, cargo ships travel one by one, not in fleets. A large group of merchant ships trying to dock all at the same time in a commercial port would raise many red flags. And what about the war ships necessary to guard said cargo vessals? No protection would make for a shooting gallery for our forces for ship number two and beyond.

No, a mass invasion is not strategically possible with a merchant fleet. There are other reasons to be concerned about China's Merchant fleet, but invasion of the USA is pretty far down the list.
 
Well, from:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/plan-overview.htm

But the PLAN remains little more than a "brown water" coastal defense with limited "green water" capabilities, and no pretense of "blue water" aspirations.

And from:

http://www.usmm.org/ddayheroes.html

For weeks before D-day hundreds of merchant ships which had been diverted from their regular runs for the invasion service roamed the waters near the British Isles without a port to come to. They were kept outside so the enemy would not see any great ship concentration at any principal port. At the prearranged time they rendezvoused, picked up their priceless cargo and sailed for France.

Surveillance in 1944 was virtually non-existant compared to what we have today.

I give you a B+ for effort, but you still fail basic Strategy.
 
I give you a B+ for effort, but you still fail basic Strategy.
I was unaware you were a Professor at the AWC ;) Be back a little later to continue this.
 
Well the Blemont Club and The Security Watchtower links have already been provided, so I will list a few more that present what the MSM does not:

http://windsofchange.net/

http://billroggio.com/

http://www.theadventuresofchester.com/

http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/

The Fourth Rail and the Adventures of Chester have called attention to the growing military power of China, but don't forget India as a counter balance. India is also upgrading their naval capabilities, is nuclear and is nearly at parity with China in population.
 
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